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Why Study Revelation? An Interview with Greg Stevenson

2012 August 13
by Mike

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  1. Jef McVey permalink
    August 13, 2012

    I recently did a mini-study of Islamic eschatology, and was fascinated to find that, in the Islamic view, both Jesus and Mohammed will descend from heaven at the end-times and will fight TOGETHER to “restore all righteousness.”

    When that is accomplished, they will take 1000-year turns in ruling over “the world to come.”

    As I recall, this is the “Sunni” view. The “Shiite” view is a bit different, but similar in most respects.

    FASCINATING.

  2. Jeremy permalink
    August 13, 2012

    Great words from Dr. Stevenson. I have to tell you: this is one of the most exciting lecture themes I’ve seen anywhere in a long time. It feels like Tim LaHaye scared everyone away from Revelation. It’s almost as if it doesn’t need to be a part of our canon.

  3. eirenetheou permalink
    August 14, 2012

    i am in the midst of preaching through the Apocalypse of Jesus Christ — coming to chapter 9 in the Sunday to come — understanding it as the Gospel of the Risen Lord. If we can hear it, the Apocalypse reveals to us the reality of the world in which we live. It reveals to us what has happened, what will happen, and what is happening now. We may, in the Apocalypse, see and hear what the human eye cannot see and the human ear cannot hear. The Apocalypse reveals to us the Risen Lord doing the work of God in the world.

    In the past century, among the Churches of Christ, the Apocalypse has been suspended between premillennial fantasies and amillennial fallacies. i am glad to hear Professor Stevenson’s thoughtful reflections, and i hope that your work together God may encourage a sober and joyful hearing of the prophet’s testimony. May we all embrace the testimony of Jesus!

    God’s Peace to you.

    d

  4. Charlie Coil permalink
    August 15, 2012

    Hey Mike,

    What a great thing that you’ve chosen John’s Revelation right out of the gate in your new director role at Pepperdine!

    West Texans would say, “Well son, normally we don’t let the rookie ride the biggest, baddest bull in the lot, but if that’s what you want, have at it!”

    My first time to speak at Pepperdine was 1986 and I chose the book of Revelation! In my presentation I used many of the fantastic images from William Blake, as I recall. I think I was a little bit crazy. I know William Blake was. Maybe you are. Maybe John the Revelator was. But, it’s all good, I KNOW that.

    Many of my students where I adjunct teach at John Brown University are majoring in Digital Media Arts and when we come to the book of Revelation they are blown away by the images they never knew were there. I tell them that Revelation (all apocalyptic lit really) is like the original “graphic novel”! Then when they really “get” what the theological themes are all about, it just blows them away how relevant these still are.

    Blessings to you my friend in this new adventure. Did you notice the NYT piece from Elaine Pagels?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/books/review/revelations-by-elaine-pagels.html?pagewanted=all

    Here’s a little Mother Goose-inspired thing I wrote about Revelation “back in the day” that you might enjoy since you’re going to be consumed with John’s vision for the next few months!

    Angel Number Seven

    This is the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    These are the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    These are the nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    This is the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    This is the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    I am the sinner who’s now forgiven
    Because of the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    We are a kingdom something like leaven
    Made from sinners now forgiven
    Because of the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    This is the rising King whose life was given
    For a kingdom that’s something like leaven
    Made from sinners now forgiven
    Because of the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    This is the trumpet that sounded in heaven
    For the rising king whose life was given
    For a kingdom that’s something like leaven
    Made from sinners now forgiven
    Because of the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    This is the angel number seven
    Who blew the trumpet that sounded in heaven
    For the rising king whose life was given
    For a kingdom that’s something like leaven
    Made from sinners now forgiven
    Because of the blood
    That stained the cross
    All driven with nails
    That pierced the hands
    That were wrapped in the linen
    That lay in the tomb that Joseph built

    By Charlie Coil
    Angel Number Seven©

  5. August 25, 2012

    Hmm…I always thought that Revelation wasn’t discussed very offen because everyone was trying hard not to impose their eschatological opinions on each other. Postmillennial Alexander Campbell and premillennial Barton Stone were able to stay in communion together, and since then, there seems to be a general consensus that it’s not worth dividing over. It’s still preached and taught and debated, but unlike many other denominational and nondenominational churches, we don’t make it a test of faith.

  6. Randall permalink
    August 25, 2012

    Hi Jenny,
    Are you familiar with a man named Foy E. Wallace Jr. (FEW – FEW Jr.)? I believe during the middle part of the first half of the 20th century he did make escahatalogical views a test of fellowship. Indeed, he may have inspired something akin to “witch hunts” to weed out all those that did meet his view of “orthodoxy” regarding eschatology – i.e amillenialism. The vaguest hint of premillenialism was enough to get preachers and college professors fired. This was long after (50-75 years) Alex. Campbell and B.W. Stone had passed away

    There may be ample evidence of his thinking in journals that remain available to those that research this kind of thing.
    Hesed,
    Randall

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