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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-72345</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wednesdays, my absolute favorite night of the week!  As many have stated above I grew up always being at church - no matter what - but instead of turning me off of it - I LONG for it.  I'm 28 (my husband is as well) and I cannot wait to get home, make a quick supper, and go to church.  We are studying Acts right now, verse by verse.  I feel refreshed, uplifted, and encouraged.  We sit in a circle of about 40 (well a few don't like the circle and sit off to the side).  We sing songs - very casual, someone will say a number and one of the men will lead it.  We read, study, and talk about all of the amazing and very difficult experiences that the early Christians went through, and then we close in prayer.  It's not just a "closing prayer" though, it's a time where people ACTUALLY feel comfortable to say, "I struggle with worry" or any sort of prayer request - the real stuff.  I don't know about you but sometimes we, Christians, pretend like we have it all together and figured out, but we don't, we all need God everyday!  God is good.....All the time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesdays, my absolute favorite night of the week!  As many have stated above I grew up always being at church - no matter what - but instead of turning me off of it - I LONG for it.  I&#8217;m 28 (my husband is as well) and I cannot wait to get home, make a quick supper, and go to church.  We are studying Acts right now, verse by verse.  I feel refreshed, uplifted, and encouraged.  We sit in a circle of about 40 (well a few don&#8217;t like the circle and sit off to the side).  We sing songs - very casual, someone will say a number and one of the men will lead it.  We read, study, and talk about all of the amazing and very difficult experiences that the early Christians went through, and then we close in prayer.  It&#8217;s not just a &#8220;closing prayer&#8221; though, it&#8217;s a time where people ACTUALLY feel comfortable to say, &#8220;I struggle with worry&#8221; or any sort of prayer request - the real stuff.  I don&#8217;t know about you but sometimes we, Christians, pretend like we have it all together and figured out, but we don&#8217;t, we all need God everyday!  God is good&#8230;..All the time!</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-72018</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, Jr. wrote, "What’s more, “going to church” two or three times a week often alienates us from those for whom “church” is silly and irrelevant."

Well, gosh, we wouldn't want to upset the world, now would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, Jr. wrote, &#8220;What’s more, “going to church” two or three times a week often alienates us from those for whom “church” is silly and irrelevant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, gosh, we wouldn&#8217;t want to upset the world, now would we?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-72006</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks this is an interesting dilemma.

Our culture -- including churched folks -- is far from the days when church life was central to life in general.  You know, when you could see the steeple above all the other buildings, and you'd never double-book an event during church.  Times have changed, whether we like it or not.  Some are calling these days "post-Christendom."

You can see the tension in the comments here.  Some say, "more church is the answer" to the church's loss of influence and importance in our culture.  Some say a revisioning of our identities and mission is what is necessary in such times, that we must separate traditions from core practices.  

Wednesday evening "church" -- meaning at a building, etc -- is a tradition, not a core practice of Christ's church through the ages.  Communities traditionally have lived within close reach of each other, encouraging each other throughout the week.  To those who still do this, going to a building for some songs and a sermon on Wednesday night seems like a weak attempt at fostering community and accountability.  What's more, "going to church" two or three times a week often alienates us from those for whom "church" is silly and irrelevant.  When most Christians are driving across town between 15 and 45 minutes to church (hours sometimes in the Northeast), they can begin to lose sight of the ones who have yet to experience the life of Christ.

I think you can see where I fall in this debate: less "church" (as in the formal meetings, brick and mortar, drives across town), not more, is the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks this is an interesting dilemma.</p>
<p>Our culture &#8212; including churched folks &#8212; is far from the days when church life was central to life in general.  You know, when you could see the steeple above all the other buildings, and you&#8217;d never double-book an event during church.  Times have changed, whether we like it or not.  Some are calling these days &#8220;post-Christendom.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can see the tension in the comments here.  Some say, &#8220;more church is the answer&#8221; to the church&#8217;s loss of influence and importance in our culture.  Some say a revisioning of our identities and mission is what is necessary in such times, that we must separate traditions from core practices.  </p>
<p>Wednesday evening &#8220;church&#8221; &#8212; meaning at a building, etc &#8212; is a tradition, not a core practice of Christ&#8217;s church through the ages.  Communities traditionally have lived within close reach of each other, encouraging each other throughout the week.  To those who still do this, going to a building for some songs and a sermon on Wednesday night seems like a weak attempt at fostering community and accountability.  What&#8217;s more, &#8220;going to church&#8221; two or three times a week often alienates us from those for whom &#8220;church&#8221; is silly and irrelevant.  When most Christians are driving across town between 15 and 45 minutes to church (hours sometimes in the Northeast), they can begin to lose sight of the ones who have yet to experience the life of Christ.</p>
<p>I think you can see where I fall in this debate: less &#8220;church&#8221; (as in the formal meetings, brick and mortar, drives across town), not more, is the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71999</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, everyone, for this feedback.  Charlton, you restated my question well.  CK and Carolyn, I love those stories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everyone, for this feedback.  Charlton, you restated my question well.  CK and Carolyn, I love those stories!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71995</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Wednesday’s are needed in my opinion. Our challenge is to stay (relevant) and interesting to everyone from cradle role to adults. Encouraging one another, I like that idea."

Chris, I agree with you fully.  But rather than leaving it up to "Church" to provide that relevancy and encouragement, wouldn't it be most profitable for the Kingdom if each believer found those resources in his/her own neighborhood among fellow believers/searchers (daily)?  I am afraid that most Christians have turned over responsibility for spiritual growth and nurture to the institution, and most Churches that I know are all too happy and eager to assume that responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wednesday’s are needed in my opinion. Our challenge is to stay (relevant) and interesting to everyone from cradle role to adults. Encouraging one another, I like that idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris, I agree with you fully.  But rather than leaving it up to &#8220;Church&#8221; to provide that relevancy and encouragement, wouldn&#8217;t it be most profitable for the Kingdom if each believer found those resources in his/her own neighborhood among fellow believers/searchers (daily)?  I am afraid that most Christians have turned over responsibility for spiritual growth and nurture to the institution, and most Churches that I know are all too happy and eager to assume that responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71993</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RELEVENT, not relative.  I've got such a strong mastery of this keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RELEVENT, not relative.  I&#8217;ve got such a strong mastery of this keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71992</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm no scholar but my understanding is that Sunday night services were begun at Pentecost.  Just kidding, wasn't it started during the industrial revolution for those who had to work Sunday's?

Wednesday's are needed in my opinion.  Our challenge is to stay relative and interesting to everyone from cradle role to adults.  Encouraging one another, I like that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no scholar but my understanding is that Sunday night services were begun at Pentecost.  Just kidding, wasn&#8217;t it started during the industrial revolution for those who had to work Sunday&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Wednesday&#8217;s are needed in my opinion.  Our challenge is to stay relative and interesting to everyone from cradle role to adults.  Encouraging one another, I like that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Maners</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71989</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Maners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I'd like to our church drop the Sunday evening service and add a Saturday evening service. When Paul preached till midnight, it was probably what we would call Saturday night, not Sunday night. 

I don't mind Wednesday pm Bible class. Most of the time I'm so tired, I don't get allot out of Wednesday nights. I go mainly for my kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to our church drop the Sunday evening service and add a Saturday evening service. When Paul preached till midnight, it was probably what we would call Saturday night, not Sunday night. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind Wednesday pm Bible class. Most of the time I&#8217;m so tired, I don&#8217;t get allot out of Wednesday nights. I go mainly for my kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Brenton</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71988</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Brenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like annie, I love meeting with my small LIFE Group - Angi and me, and elder and his wife, a deacon and his wife. Right now we're in the middle of the (don't tell anybody) Beth Moore video/workbook series "Jesus the One and Only."

In my job at church, I scan local (and sometimes statewide) online church bulletins for events I can help publicize in the church bulletin. Many bulletins, like ours, contain an order of worship and sometimes class descriptions for the Sunday to come. My LIFE Group study about Jesus has made me acutely aware of how infrequently Jesus is featured as a topic for sermons and classes. I still think that there is some opportunity for evangelism in those settings; that people who haven't heard about Jesus need to, and people who have should never tire of hearing about Him.

I'd be happy to spend any Wednesday evening in any kind of setting where He is welcome, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like annie, I love meeting with my small LIFE Group - Angi and me, and elder and his wife, a deacon and his wife. Right now we&#8217;re in the middle of the (don&#8217;t tell anybody) Beth Moore video/workbook series &#8220;Jesus the One and Only.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my job at church, I scan local (and sometimes statewide) online church bulletins for events I can help publicize in the church bulletin. Many bulletins, like ours, contain an order of worship and sometimes class descriptions for the Sunday to come. My LIFE Group study about Jesus has made me acutely aware of how infrequently Jesus is featured as a topic for sermons and classes. I still think that there is some opportunity for evangelism in those settings; that people who haven&#8217;t heard about Jesus need to, and people who have should never tire of hearing about Him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to spend any Wednesday evening in any kind of setting where He is welcome, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Royce Ogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royce Ogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At our church in West Monroe Wed night is called "Peak of the Week" and each week several hundred show up. Most of us meet in the old assembly room for singing and most of the time a Bible lesson.

The acustics in that hall are great and the singing is out of sight! It is even less formal than Sunday (not saying much for WFR since we are neve formal)People come straight from work, sports activities, etc. and the worship is lively and a great blessing. 

We have several other people who are involved in step studies in connection with Celebrate Recovery, a blessed ministry that is reaching many folks for the Lord.

I look forward to Wed night just as much as Sunday. Both are great!

His peace
Royce Ogle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At our church in West Monroe Wed night is called &#8220;Peak of the Week&#8221; and each week several hundred show up. Most of us meet in the old assembly room for singing and most of the time a Bible lesson.</p>
<p>The acustics in that hall are great and the singing is out of sight! It is even less formal than Sunday (not saying much for WFR since we are neve formal)People come straight from work, sports activities, etc. and the worship is lively and a great blessing. </p>
<p>We have several other people who are involved in step studies in connection with Celebrate Recovery, a blessed ministry that is reaching many folks for the Lord.</p>
<p>I look forward to Wed night just as much as Sunday. Both are great!</p>
<p>His peace<br />
Royce Ogle</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Dycus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Dycus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic brings back a memory at Highland (30 years ago?)when my husband and I had gotten our three kids to their Wed. night classes and we ran into Lynn Anderson, our preacher then. Apparently he saw the exhaustion in our faces and said, "Why don't you two go somewhere for this hour and just enjoy being together?" That did it--we went. 

Tracy, I think that was the beginning of permission for me not to be legalistic, which is good. When I'm out of steam, I can be at home in peace. When I do get to church, whether it's the prayer room or in a class, I find all kinds of good things, especially in the company of people I love, like Lauren said. Wednesday nights are good if they are spent spirit-filled, whatever the activity or the quiet time. GOD is good, wherever, whenever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic brings back a memory at Highland (30 years ago?)when my husband and I had gotten our three kids to their Wed. night classes and we ran into Lynn Anderson, our preacher then. Apparently he saw the exhaustion in our faces and said, &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you two go somewhere for this hour and just enjoy being together?&#8221; That did it&#8211;we went. </p>
<p>Tracy, I think that was the beginning of permission for me not to be legalistic, which is good. When I&#8217;m out of steam, I can be at home in peace. When I do get to church, whether it&#8217;s the prayer room or in a class, I find all kinds of good things, especially in the company of people I love, like Lauren said. Wednesday nights are good if they are spent spirit-filled, whatever the activity or the quiet time. GOD is good, wherever, whenever.</p>
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		<title>By: qb</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2008/04/10/spurring-one-another-on#comment-71976</link>
		<dc:creator>qb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful, CK.  Sometimes we just need permission to be human and not religious.  That elder had it right.  qb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, CK.  Sometimes we just need permission to be human and not religious.  That elder had it right.  qb</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CK, what a blessing you received from that wise shepherd.  Your comment reminds me of Ecclesiasties 3 which talks about seasons we go through (a time for everything).  

I look at Wednesday nights as the icing on the cake.  Not as drudgery or guilt-provoking.  Many simply cannot make it to the building or small group.  But for those who can it is an opportunity to build each other up and equip us to take Jesus back out into our hurting world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CK, what a blessing you received from that wise shepherd.  Your comment reminds me of Ecclesiasties 3 which talks about seasons we go through (a time for everything).  </p>
<p>I look at Wednesday nights as the icing on the cake.  Not as drudgery or guilt-provoking.  Many simply cannot make it to the building or small group.  But for those who can it is an opportunity to build each other up and equip us to take Jesus back out into our hurting world.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For nearly 12 years we have not attended on Wednesday nights.  It was just too hard for this single parent to work all day, pick up kids from After-School Care, get homework done, and then stay up well past their normal bedtime to go to church. Just recently, with the younger one now in Middle School, we are starting back.  I remember trying to go when he was small.  One Wednesday evening, an elder saw me exhausted and crying in the hallway.  His kind words were, "You need to go home and take care of this little one.  Don't worry about the rest right now.  There will be time for that later."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For nearly 12 years we have not attended on Wednesday nights.  It was just too hard for this single parent to work all day, pick up kids from After-School Care, get homework done, and then stay up well past their normal bedtime to go to church. Just recently, with the younger one now in Middle School, we are starting back.  I remember trying to go when he was small.  One Wednesday evening, an elder saw me exhausted and crying in the hallway.  His kind words were, &#8220;You need to go home and take care of this little one.  Don&#8217;t worry about the rest right now.  There will be time for that later.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Holt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Spring our neighborhood association started a neighborhood walk on Wednesday nights.  Plans are to resume the walks in the next couple of weeks.  As few as three or as many as fourteen meet at 6 p.m. on a designated street corner every Wednesday night, and we start walking.  We try to walk the perimeter of our neighborhood association's boundaries plus some streets in between.  We all watch out for the young children, we visit, notice who needs help with their yard work, what common areas need a clean-up, invite those we see to join us, and generally share each others' lives.  It is not uncommon for some of us to walk to a nearby restaurant for dinner afterwards.  Besides the benefit of exercise, we are able to share as a community for an hour or so.  From these walks we have learned about our neighbors' families, volunteer activities, work, childhood, and much much more.  We have also formulated our plans for our semi-annual Saturday morning clean-ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Spring our neighborhood association started a neighborhood walk on Wednesday nights.  Plans are to resume the walks in the next couple of weeks.  As few as three or as many as fourteen meet at 6 p.m. on a designated street corner every Wednesday night, and we start walking.  We try to walk the perimeter of our neighborhood association&#8217;s boundaries plus some streets in between.  We all watch out for the young children, we visit, notice who needs help with their yard work, what common areas need a clean-up, invite those we see to join us, and generally share each others&#8217; lives.  It is not uncommon for some of us to walk to a nearby restaurant for dinner afterwards.  Besides the benefit of exercise, we are able to share as a community for an hour or so.  From these walks we have learned about our neighbors&#8217; families, volunteer activities, work, childhood, and much much more.  We have also formulated our plans for our semi-annual Saturday morning clean-ups.</p>
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