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	<description>Sniffing out the work of God in the world...</description>
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		<title>By: goode design</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-64899</link>
		<dc:creator>goode design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 07:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i haven't read the book... (not like I don't have a plethora of other literature to read on my shelf)... but has anyone stopped to consider that Yeshua's family died? (Mary, Joseph, James, Doug &#38; Bubba). They're all dead (except JC). 

Look at it like this: My parents have grave plots... one was even kept for me. But I doubt I'll be buried there. Instead, I'll probably be put into a borrowed mason jar or an old ThermosÂ®... maybe a wine bottle and thrown into the sea? The point that the "Christ" family had a set of grave plots doesn't refute that Yeshua was indeed the Messiah. My parents have a car... that doesn't mean I'm going to drive theirs. 

Now we have to consider what the book proclaims. At this point, I could honestly care less what this guys book says. Give me a publisher and a computer... I can make a book that says that the ocean is made of peanut butter. 

On that note... I'm hungry... gonna go eat a PB &#38; Crackers. 

later y'all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i haven&#8217;t read the book&#8230; (not like I don&#8217;t have a plethora of other literature to read on my shelf)&#8230; but has anyone stopped to consider that Yeshua&#8217;s family died? (Mary, Joseph, James, Doug &amp; Bubba). They&#8217;re all dead (except JC). </p>
<p>Look at it like this: My parents have grave plots&#8230; one was even kept for me. But I doubt I&#8217;ll be buried there. Instead, I&#8217;ll probably be put into a borrowed mason jar or an old ThermosÂ®&#8230; maybe a wine bottle and thrown into the sea? The point that the &#8220;Christ&#8221; family had a set of grave plots doesn&#8217;t refute that Yeshua was indeed the Messiah. My parents have a car&#8230; that doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m going to drive theirs. </p>
<p>Now we have to consider what the book proclaims. At this point, I could honestly care less what this guys book says. Give me a publisher and a computer&#8230; I can make a book that says that the ocean is made of peanut butter. </p>
<p>On that note&#8230; I&#8217;m hungry&#8230; gonna go eat a PB &amp; Crackers. </p>
<p>later y&#8217;all!</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Keller</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53698</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's notable that many skeptical/atheistic blogs find the whole Jesus tomb affair laughable, as they should. Pharyngula, a prominent atheist/ evolution/ science blog, has a &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/02/errm_what.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;short dismissal here.&lt;/a&gt; As for the non-Christians who have jumped on this discovery, I think they should be embarassed, because it shows the same lack of skepticism that they criticize when it is found in the religious. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s notable that many skeptical/atheistic blogs find the whole Jesus tomb affair laughable, as they should. Pharyngula, a prominent atheist/ evolution/ science blog, has a <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/02/errm_what.php" rel="nofollow">short dismissal here.</a> As for the non-Christians who have jumped on this discovery, I think they should be embarassed, because it shows the same lack of skepticism that they criticize when it is found in the religious. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Country Fred</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53670</link>
		<dc:creator>Country Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Michael. I genuinely appreciate your words and encouragement. I do not wish to debate either. 

I imagine we disagree on most things theological, but that really doesn't matter to me. What matters is that you took the time be decent to a man who wasn't being very decent (me). Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Michael. I genuinely appreciate your words and encouragement. I do not wish to debate either. </p>
<p>I imagine we disagree on most things theological, but that really doesn&#8217;t matter to me. What matters is that you took the time be decent to a man who wasn&#8217;t being very decent (me). Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Polutta</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53663</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Polutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I am very bitter, very angry, very tired and very depressed nowadays and should not take it out on you."

Fred, I admire your humble admissions, and I appreciate that you continue to "hang out" here.  I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling.  I would like to ask you if I may pray for you with specificity.  If you are willing, you may contact me at poluttam at bell south doooot net (squeeze the blanks and extra o's - how sad that we have to take such precautions, but I get enough junk email, thank you very much!)  I do not wish to debate things (unless YOU want to).  But whatever a 'Net buddy can do for another, I'd like to try.

With hope,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am very bitter, very angry, very tired and very depressed nowadays and should not take it out on you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fred, I admire your humble admissions, and I appreciate that you continue to &#8220;hang out&#8221; here.  I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you are struggling.  I would like to ask you if I may pray for you with specificity.  If you are willing, you may contact me at poluttam at bell south doooot net (squeeze the blanks and extra o&#8217;s - how sad that we have to take such precautions, but I get enough junk email, thank you very much!)  I do not wish to debate things (unless YOU want to).  But whatever a &#8216;Net buddy can do for another, I&#8217;d like to try.</p>
<p>With hope,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Serena Voss</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53241</link>
		<dc:creator>Serena Voss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  "tomb of Jesus has been found — with the remains of his body inside."


If the tomb is not empty and it truly was the tomb where Jesus was buried, one guess is that the body belonged to Joseph of Arimathea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  &#8220;tomb of Jesus has been found — with the remains of his body inside.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the tomb is not empty and it truly was the tomb where Jesus was buried, one guess is that the body belonged to Joseph of Arimathea.</p>
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		<title>By: Country Fred</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53239</link>
		<dc:creator>Country Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

"And to think that unbelievers can poke ridicule at Christians for walking by faith without evidence!" 

This is what I found "a somewhat mean spirited reaction"

Perhaps I overreacted. That's how I read it. 

I am very bitter, very angry, very tired and very depressed nowadays and should not take it out on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>&#8220;And to think that unbelievers can poke ridicule at Christians for walking by faith without evidence!&#8221; </p>
<p>This is what I found &#8220;a somewhat mean spirited reaction&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps I overreacted. That&#8217;s how I read it. </p>
<p>I am very bitter, very angry, very tired and very depressed nowadays and should not take it out on you.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53140</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian Chronicle, and specifically Bobby Ross, has been a great partner in the Katrina Recovery Effort. I remember just a few weeks after the storm standing on the front porch of my flooded house talking to Bobby Ross on my cell phone. I do not remember any of that conversation ... my mind was mush ... but I do remember thinking how blessed I felt that the Chronicle would be carrying stories about our struggle ... and that Bobby was personally concerned. Since then he has made some personal trips to the Coast and there have been updates published regularly. For that, I am thankful.

At our Sunday night house meeting last week, the most recent issue of the Chronicle was under discussion. We had a vigorous and enjoyable discussion about the churches of Christ and our diversity. I thank the Chronicle for keeping us informed without suggesting that anyone follow suit. 

One reason that we all had the Chronicle is that I sent our directory to the Chronicle so that all of our members could receive it. I suggest everyone do the same. While there may be an identity crisis, I think in the decades to come one of the contributions to maintaining some form of our identity will be the presence of a newspaper that kept us informed of what 'we' were all doing and thinking. The Christian Chronicle fills a vital need in our fellowship... one that the GA could have filled, but instead continues to drive wedges (in my opinion).

As for Spiritual Sword ... well ... I find very little of the Spirit of Jesus in those pages. There is too much anger and sarcasm there for my palate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Chronicle, and specifically Bobby Ross, has been a great partner in the Katrina Recovery Effort. I remember just a few weeks after the storm standing on the front porch of my flooded house talking to Bobby Ross on my cell phone. I do not remember any of that conversation &#8230; my mind was mush &#8230; but I do remember thinking how blessed I felt that the Chronicle would be carrying stories about our struggle &#8230; and that Bobby was personally concerned. Since then he has made some personal trips to the Coast and there have been updates published regularly. For that, I am thankful.</p>
<p>At our Sunday night house meeting last week, the most recent issue of the Chronicle was under discussion. We had a vigorous and enjoyable discussion about the churches of Christ and our diversity. I thank the Chronicle for keeping us informed without suggesting that anyone follow suit. </p>
<p>One reason that we all had the Chronicle is that I sent our directory to the Chronicle so that all of our members could receive it. I suggest everyone do the same. While there may be an identity crisis, I think in the decades to come one of the contributions to maintaining some form of our identity will be the presence of a newspaper that kept us informed of what &#8216;we&#8217; were all doing and thinking. The Christian Chronicle fills a vital need in our fellowship&#8230; one that the GA could have filled, but instead continues to drive wedges (in my opinion).</p>
<p>As for Spiritual Sword &#8230; well &#8230; I find very little of the Spirit of Jesus in those pages. There is too much anger and sarcasm there for my palate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Burley</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53127</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Burley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quote Mike.  Now we have proof that cleavage is a sin.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quote Mike.  Now we have proof that cleavage is a sin.  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-53060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Fred, I've read my few sentences above several times now.  Is it really mean-spirited?  Does it offend you that I disagree with the perspective (which, by the way, is well known and isn't being hidden until the release date)?  I'm a believer.  

I have said before that I appreciate your questions.  I've also posted some of my struggles with faith.

But is it mean-spirited to say that there is no way to prove the body of Jesus is in this tomb?  (I wouldn't claim that I can absolutely prove it isn't.  I receive this by faith.  Faith with reason, I think, but faith nevertheless.  My main reason is my experience of the Risen Christ.)

I'm puzzled by what you found to be so mean.   Perhaps I'm just blind here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Fred, I&#8217;ve read my few sentences above several times now.  Is it really mean-spirited?  Does it offend you that I disagree with the perspective (which, by the way, is well known and isn&#8217;t being hidden until the release date)?  I&#8217;m a believer.  </p>
<p>I have said before that I appreciate your questions.  I&#8217;ve also posted some of my struggles with faith.</p>
<p>But is it mean-spirited to say that there is no way to prove the body of Jesus is in this tomb?  (I wouldn&#8217;t claim that I can absolutely prove it isn&#8217;t.  I receive this by faith.  Faith with reason, I think, but faith nevertheless.  My main reason is my experience of the Risen Christ.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m puzzled by what you found to be so mean.   Perhaps I&#8217;m just blind here.</p>
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		<title>By: Hub</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52993</link>
		<dc:creator>Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Countdown to Nazi comment is on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Countdown to Nazi comment is on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Country Fred</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52984</link>
		<dc:creator>Country Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

via Scot McKnight: They never said it was Jesus's DNA they said that Mary Madgeline and Jesus did not have the same DNA therefore were not related therefore possibly married if in same tomb. 

You said : "The Christian Chronicle has been on a journey. Long gone are the days of mean-spirited editorials" 

You praise Christian Chronicle for not being mean spirited and in the same post write a somewhat mean spirited reaction to a documentary you haven't seen. Seems very hypocritical too me.

I guess if people agree with you they are not mean spirited. 

I thought you would be open to someone examining their faith and drawing their own conclusions, but the conclusion better not stray too far from the fold. 

I guess us stupid people can't be trusted to examine the really easy stuff like instrumental music, but we shouldn't go any deeper than that because were not equipped. So go ahead chalk up my comments to stupidity, laugh at people who want to examine this subject and wonder why un believers have very little use for Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>via Scot McKnight: They never said it was Jesus&#8217;s DNA they said that Mary Madgeline and Jesus did not have the same DNA therefore were not related therefore possibly married if in same tomb. </p>
<p>You said : &#8220;The Christian Chronicle has been on a journey. Long gone are the days of mean-spirited editorials&#8221; </p>
<p>You praise Christian Chronicle for not being mean spirited and in the same post write a somewhat mean spirited reaction to a documentary you haven&#8217;t seen. Seems very hypocritical too me.</p>
<p>I guess if people agree with you they are not mean spirited. </p>
<p>I thought you would be open to someone examining their faith and drawing their own conclusions, but the conclusion better not stray too far from the fold. </p>
<p>I guess us stupid people can&#8217;t be trusted to examine the really easy stuff like instrumental music, but we shouldn&#8217;t go any deeper than that because were not equipped. So go ahead chalk up my comments to stupidity, laugh at people who want to examine this subject and wonder why un believers have very little use for Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary H</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52978</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Martin F., millions of people throughout history have given their lives in defense of a belief system, be it religious or secular in nature.  But that's very different from scores of presumably sane people choosing to die over the veracity of a very specific historical event that they would have known first-hand to be a complete falsehood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Martin F., millions of people throughout history have given their lives in defense of a belief system, be it religious or secular in nature.  But that&#8217;s very different from scores of presumably sane people choosing to die over the veracity of a very specific historical event that they would have known first-hand to be a complete falsehood.</p>
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		<title>By: KentF</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52963</link>
		<dc:creator>KentF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your follow-up Rex and thoughts on this issue - God bless your ministry in upstate NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your follow-up Rex and thoughts on this issue - God bless your ministry in upstate NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Ross</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52962</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex, 

I appreciate your note and thank you for reading the Chronicle. And please feel free to voice your concerns at any time; we are far from perfect in what we do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, </p>
<p>I appreciate your note and thank you for reading the Chronicle. And please feel free to voice your concerns at any time; we are far from perfect in what we do!</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/26/1093#comment-52959</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby,

You are right the Chronicle is not the only one to report the Richland Hills adoption of instruments.

Any ways, I do want you to know that I enjoy the Chronicle a lot and appreciate the work as I know that there is a lot of work that goes into it without a lot of manpower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby,</p>
<p>You are right the Chronicle is not the only one to report the Richland Hills adoption of instruments.</p>
<p>Any ways, I do want you to know that I enjoy the Chronicle a lot and appreciate the work as I know that there is a lot of work that goes into it without a lot of manpower.</p>
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