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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-70317</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ted...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hats off to you my good man....</description>
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<p>Hats off to you my good man&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Test</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-58586</link>
		<dc:creator>Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello 
 
 
Bye</description>
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<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>By: Illegal Immigration &#171; The Moratorium Site</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-56239</link>
		<dc:creator>Illegal Immigration &#171; The Moratorium Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Notice the title of this post.  See the first word?  That is key to this post.  Unfortunately, some people only hear the 2nd word and then turn around and play the race card and call you a bigot or a racist or, to put it quite simply, they say you hate Hispanics.  I am so very tired of not being able to talk about this without being referred to in this way.   We had a discussion recently on Mike Cope&#8217;s blog.  People there were insinuating that we were just against Hispanics.  Some just came out and said it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Notice the title of this post.  See the first word?  That is key to this post.  Unfortunately, some people only hear the 2nd word and then turn around and play the race card and call you a bigot or a racist or, to put it quite simply, they say you hate Hispanics.  I am so very tired of not being able to talk about this without being referred to in this way.   We had a discussion recently on Mike Cope&#8217;s blog.  People there were insinuating that we were just against Hispanics.  Some just came out and said it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: giorgia palmas</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-55253</link>
		<dc:creator>giorgia palmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice site you have!</description>
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		<title>By: preacher man</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-51190</link>
		<dc:creator>preacher man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.freegilmer.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freegilmer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freegilmer.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Growing up</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-49204</link>
		<dc:creator>Growing up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The illegal immigration &#8220;debate&#8221; is delving deeper and deeper into racism over at Mike Cope&#8217;s blog. The comments are ridiculous. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The illegal immigration &#8220;debate&#8221; is delving deeper and deeper into racism over at Mike Cope&#8217;s blog. The comments are ridiculous. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-49143</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM - if the hood fits....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM - if the hood fits&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-49118</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, the whole myth about "doing jobs that American's are not willing to do" is just that...a myth.  Companies hire illegals for cheap labor.  American's are ok with it because they get lower priced products.  Take them out of the mix and the market would correct and companies would pay more and more people would take the job.

It's a form of the "invisible hand" at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the whole myth about &#8220;doing jobs that American&#8217;s are not willing to do&#8221; is just that&#8230;a myth.  Companies hire illegals for cheap labor.  American&#8217;s are ok with it because they get lower priced products.  Take them out of the mix and the market would correct and companies would pay more and more people would take the job.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a form of the &#8220;invisible hand&#8221; at work.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48967</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again.....

First Nazis and now The Klan.

Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again&#8230;..</p>
<p>First Nazis and now The Klan.</p>
<p>Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48945</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much misinformation regarding our immigration challenge.  Having worked in the roofing business for eight years, I probably have a different perspective since I have worked with subs who had undocumented workers on their crews.  Concractors do not have much of a choice regarding hiring crew leaders who use undocumented workers.  

One of the reasons that there are not Americans for these jobs is because we have raised a couple of decades of youth that do not know how to work.  Construction is hard work.  If you become "good with a hammer,"  regardless of your background, you can make very good money.  I have known many roofers who have paid for houses, vehicles, etc.  Their net worth is greater than many of the folks that live in the wealthy neighborhoods around our big cities in Texas.

 Just a few "drive by" comments.  My main point is that both sides of the issue really do not what to here the truth.  For some reason, "we can't handle the truth."  There  many naive as well as bull-headed folks when it comes to immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much misinformation regarding our immigration challenge.  Having worked in the roofing business for eight years, I probably have a different perspective since I have worked with subs who had undocumented workers on their crews.  Concractors do not have much of a choice regarding hiring crew leaders who use undocumented workers.  </p>
<p>One of the reasons that there are not Americans for these jobs is because we have raised a couple of decades of youth that do not know how to work.  Construction is hard work.  If you become &#8220;good with a hammer,&#8221;  regardless of your background, you can make very good money.  I have known many roofers who have paid for houses, vehicles, etc.  Their net worth is greater than many of the folks that live in the wealthy neighborhoods around our big cities in Texas.</p>
<p> Just a few &#8220;drive by&#8221; comments.  My main point is that both sides of the issue really do not what to here the truth.  For some reason, &#8220;we can&#8217;t handle the truth.&#8221;  There  many naive as well as bull-headed folks when it comes to immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48894</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan is correct:  The Bible seems to indicate that the "have" are responsible for caring for the "have nots" without the "have nots" having to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan is correct:  The Bible seems to indicate that the &#8220;have&#8221; are responsible for caring for the &#8220;have nots&#8221; without the &#8220;have nots&#8221; having to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48887</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People aren't leaving Cuba because of their religious beliefs . . . there are a lot of Catholics in Cuba.  They leave because they can't be in control like they once were, under Batista.  Read the history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People aren&#8217;t leaving Cuba because of their religious beliefs . . . there are a lot of Catholics in Cuba.  They leave because they can&#8217;t be in control like they once were, under Batista.  Read the history books.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48858</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting conversation. I also find it interesting that CNN just reported 2 days ago about the increase in Klan membership/chapters nationwide. When interviewed, the imperial wizard of Illinois admitted that the illegal immigration issue is a "winning strategy" to gain membership. If the Klan is "for" something, then my position is usually going to be "against." I just find it surprising that people are so vehement about this issue. We (and I include myself in this) become so afraid that "they" are going to take what "we" have earned or had the advantages to earn.

I am a college graduate, but I am the first in my family to do so (and still the only). I worked and I paid my own way. I have never had anything "handed" to me - but I recognize that I had the cultural advantages to make my success happen.  Seems that most people who "came from nothing" think that all people have the tools to do that. Financially I came from nothing, but spiritually and culturally, I was rich with advantages. 

I find it so interesting that the people who employ those crossing into
 our country illegally are not held up public scrutiny. Let's expose those people who are lining their pockets with the money saved using immigrant  labor. Oops - we might not want to do that. No telling what we'll find under those rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting conversation. I also find it interesting that CNN just reported 2 days ago about the increase in Klan membership/chapters nationwide. When interviewed, the imperial wizard of Illinois admitted that the illegal immigration issue is a &#8220;winning strategy&#8221; to gain membership. If the Klan is &#8220;for&#8221; something, then my position is usually going to be &#8220;against.&#8221; I just find it surprising that people are so vehement about this issue. We (and I include myself in this) become so afraid that &#8220;they&#8221; are going to take what &#8220;we&#8221; have earned or had the advantages to earn.</p>
<p>I am a college graduate, but I am the first in my family to do so (and still the only). I worked and I paid my own way. I have never had anything &#8220;handed&#8221; to me - but I recognize that I had the cultural advantages to make my success happen.  Seems that most people who &#8220;came from nothing&#8221; think that all people have the tools to do that. Financially I came from nothing, but spiritually and culturally, I was rich with advantages. </p>
<p>I find it so interesting that the people who employ those crossing into<br />
 our country illegally are not held up public scrutiny. Let&#8217;s expose those people who are lining their pockets with the money saved using immigrant  labor. Oops - we might not want to do that. No telling what we&#8217;ll find under those rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Keller</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48821</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roland,
An honest question it was indeed, albeit it a leading one, and with an obvious answer. I think that purposely breaking the law (i.e. civil disobedience) was the correct, right, moral thing to do in the civil rights movement. And I'm sure you agree. The question, then, is what is it about that situation that made breaking the law ok?

Apples and oranges? Sure, but Steve is right- they're both fruit, and they both grow on trees. You say that you are only upholding the law, not discriminating on race, and I agree. My complaint is against the very laws themselves. Laws can be unjust, and as long as the only standard is to follow the law as it is, one will be blind to the law as it could be. It just so happens that in this case, by no accident of history, the laws are specifically designed to keep the poorest of the poor out by limiting quotas and by a tiresome system for 'legal immigration' that left to itself would leave most of the potential immigrants whiling away their lives in desperate poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roland,<br />
An honest question it was indeed, albeit it a leading one, and with an obvious answer. I think that purposely breaking the law (i.e. civil disobedience) was the correct, right, moral thing to do in the civil rights movement. And I&#8217;m sure you agree. The question, then, is what is it about that situation that made breaking the law ok?</p>
<p>Apples and oranges? Sure, but Steve is right- they&#8217;re both fruit, and they both grow on trees. You say that you are only upholding the law, not discriminating on race, and I agree. My complaint is against the very laws themselves. Laws can be unjust, and as long as the only standard is to follow the law as it is, one will be blind to the law as it could be. It just so happens that in this case, by no accident of history, the laws are specifically designed to keep the poorest of the poor out by limiting quotas and by a tiresome system for &#8216;legal immigration&#8217; that left to itself would leave most of the potential immigrants whiling away their lives in desperate poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/02/07/oprah-moment#comment-48819</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry, excellent, excellent arguments;  you are a voice of reason.  

I recently saw a news report from a conservative representative who stated, plainly, that as soon as the law cracks down on companies who hire illegals, then the motivation for such out-of-control border crossing will stop.  Makes sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry, excellent, excellent arguments;  you are a voice of reason.  </p>
<p>I recently saw a news report from a conservative representative who stated, plainly, that as soon as the law cracks down on companies who hire illegals, then the motivation for such out-of-control border crossing will stop.  Makes sense to me.</p>
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