Comments on: Life Outside of Football http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:04:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: beverly http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48281 beverly Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:49:05 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48281 My son loves Dungy and I love that. What a great man for my boy to watch. I love it when great men rise up and are admired by so many then people quietly find out that he's a christian. Its a thessalonian kind of thing. My son loves Dungy and I love that. What a great man for my boy to watch.
I love it when great men rise up and are admired by so many then people quietly find out that he’s a christian. Its a thessalonian kind of thing.

]]> By: Royce Ogle http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48155 Royce Ogle Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:57:15 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48155 Wow! Royce Ogle Wow!

Royce Ogle

]]> By: Beth http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48107 Beth Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:39:10 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48107 Many of the "older" songs were written as devotional thoughts...and some have 10-20 verses that we never see. Many were not set to music during the lifetime of the author of the words...and for some songs the chorus after each verse was added by the person who put music to the words. Take time to read just the verses, because there is a progressive thought in most of them. When you know the history behind the writing of the words, the song often becomes richer and fuller. I learned many of the "older" songs when we moved to Searcy during my teen years. I had gone through early grade school years sitting beside Tillit S Teddlie as he wrote some of his many songs in my grandfather's grocery store...and learned some of his songs before they were ever published. The "out of date" language does not bother me...just as dialects or phrases in certain parts of the country do not bother me...that's just the way they spoke....and they spoke from their hearts. Many of the “older” songs were written as devotional thoughts…and some have 10-20 verses that we never see. Many were not set to music during the lifetime of the author of the words…and for some songs the chorus after each verse was added by the person who put music to the words. Take time to read just the verses, because there is a progressive thought in most of them. When you know the history behind the writing of the words, the song often becomes richer and fuller. I learned many of the “older” songs when we moved to Searcy during my teen years. I had gone through early grade school years sitting beside Tillit S Teddlie as he wrote some of his many songs in my grandfather’s grocery store…and learned some of his songs before they were ever published. The “out of date” language does not bother me…just as dialects or phrases in certain parts of the country do not bother me…that’s just the way they spoke….and they spoke from their hearts.

]]> By: Sandra http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48098 Sandra Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:13:59 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48098 "Where cross the crowded ways of life"...Oh, how our cities do need the Lord today. Thanks for reminding me of those lines. Pray that the innocent little ones in our cities will be told by someone that Jesus loves them. “Where cross the crowded ways of life”…Oh, how our cities do need the Lord today. Thanks for reminding me of those lines. Pray that the innocent little ones in our cities will be told by someone that Jesus loves them.

]]> By: Calvin (G'ampa C) http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48082 Calvin (G'ampa C) Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:51:59 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48082 Most of the songs I consider "special" are associated with special events or occasions in my life. Even though the words may be old, the tune outdated, etc, I am moved because of where I was in my journey on a particular day when I sang that song. In the same way, others might really DISLIKE a song because of how it struck them in their journey. The first time I heard "Farther Along" was at my grandpa's funeral, and I was almost mesmerized through my tears at the twangy, southern drawl of the quartet. That song, I think, will always move me, even though the words, when simply read, are simplistic and do not move me. Yes, I have complained about a few songs in my day, as well. Wouldn't it be interesting to know what hymn they sang before Jesus went out to the garden? I bet some of them didn't like the words, or thought it was to old, or too contemporary, or too trite, or "it just didn't touch me" or, not my favorite. Different places in the journey. Singing at Hospice, we have been asked a number of times for "Mansions Over the Hilltop" and even "Sing and Be Happy". I have my least favorite ones, too, and I am guilty of whining about the trend to sing the last verse or phrase seventeen times before the song can be considered complete; BUT......I have made up my mind to stop complaining and to be involved in whatever song is set before the Father, because someone in the congregation may need that song on that day for their journey. How arrogant is it of me to grist about a song, or the way it was delivered, or a sermon, or an old, rote prayer, or anything else in a worship service, as if I were the only important member present, or as if it was for me in the first place? On my best days, I know God is calling me to sing for the ears of others, not my own, and to praise for the ears of God, and not my own. For Iam......not my own. Most of the songs I consider “special” are associated with special events or occasions in my life. Even though the words may be old, the tune outdated, etc, I am moved because of where I was in my journey on a particular day when I sang that song. In the same way, others might really DISLIKE a song because of how it struck them in their journey. The first time I heard “Farther Along” was at my grandpa’s funeral, and I was almost mesmerized through my tears at the twangy, southern drawl of the quartet. That song, I think, will always move me, even though the words, when simply read, are simplistic and do not move me.

Yes, I have complained about a few songs in my day, as well. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what hymn they sang before Jesus went out to the garden? I bet some of them didn’t like the words, or thought it was to old, or too contemporary, or too trite, or “it just didn’t touch me” or, not my favorite. Different places in the journey. Singing at Hospice, we have been asked a number of times for “Mansions Over the Hilltop” and even “Sing and Be Happy”.

I have my least favorite ones, too, and I am guilty of whining about the trend to sing the last verse or phrase seventeen times before the song can be considered complete; BUT……I have made up my mind to stop complaining and to be involved in whatever song is set before the Father, because someone in the congregation may need that song on that day for their journey. How arrogant is it of me to grist about a song, or the way it was delivered, or a sermon, or an old, rote prayer, or anything else in a worship service, as if I were the only important member present, or as if it was for me in the first place?
On my best days, I know God is calling me to sing for the ears of others, not my own, and to praise for the ears of God, and not my own. For Iam……not my own.

]]> By: Jim Martin http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48077 Jim Martin Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:14:11 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48077 Mike, This piece by Rubel is great! Thanks for including it today. Mike,
This piece by Rubel is great! Thanks for including it today.

]]> By: mchristophoros http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48076 mchristophoros Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:05:17 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48076 This hymn to urban ministry is one we never sing anymore. I learned it in the old "Blue Book". Looking it up on the net, I found verses I didn't even know existed. Wish we could revive it. Where cross the crowded ways of life Where sound the cries of race and clan Above the noise of selfish strife We hear thy voice, O Son of Man! In haunts of wretchedness and need on shadowed thresholds dark with fears, from paths where hide the lures of greed, we catch the vision of thy tears. From tender childhoods helplessness, from woman's grief, man's burdened toil, from famished souls, from sorrow's stress, thy heart has never known recoil. The cup of water given for thee still holds the freshness of thy grace; yet long these multitudes to see the sweet compassion of thy face. O Master, from the mountain side, make haste to heal these hearts of pain; among these restless throngs abide, O tread the city's streets again; Till all the world shall learn thy love, and follow where thy feet have trod; till glorious from thy heaven above, shall come the city of our God. This hymn to urban ministry is one we never sing anymore.
I learned it in the old “Blue Book”.
Looking it up on the net, I found verses I didn’t even know existed.
Wish we could revive it.

Where cross the crowded ways of life
Where sound the cries of race and clan
Above the noise of selfish strife
We hear thy voice, O Son of Man!

In haunts of wretchedness and need
on shadowed thresholds dark with fears,
from paths where hide the lures of greed,
we catch the vision of thy tears.

From tender childhoods helplessness,
from woman’s grief, man’s burdened toil,
from famished souls, from sorrow’s stress,
thy heart has never known recoil.

The cup of water given for thee
still holds the freshness of thy grace;
yet long these multitudes to see
the sweet compassion of thy face.

O Master, from the mountain side,
make haste to heal these hearts of pain;
among these restless throngs abide,
O tread the city’s streets again;

Till all the world shall learn thy love,
and follow where thy feet have trod;
till glorious from thy heaven above,
shall come the city of our God.

]]> By: Kathy http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48075 Kathy Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:02:08 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48075 "I like the song “The River of God”, it makes sense to me and helps me express my heart to God but I know there are others who just plain do not like it." There are times the same hymn or song will touch me to the deepest parts of my heart and soul and other times will barely be understandable to my thick head/mind. But nearly always there definitely "is a stirring..." when I can join others in worship. As mentioned before, as a single woman, our church family worship really is a treat and awesome time for me, whether we sing hymns or songs, whether with or without musical instruments, it matters not to me - just being with others in worship of God it seems to give me wings, transports me to Him. “I like the song “The River of God”, it makes sense to me and helps me express my heart to God but I know there are others who just plain do not like it.”

There are times the same hymn or song will touch me to the deepest parts of my heart and soul and other times will barely be understandable to my thick head/mind. But nearly always there definitely “is a stirring…” when I can join others in worship.

As mentioned before, as a single woman, our church family worship really is a treat and awesome time for me, whether we sing hymns or songs, whether with or without musical instruments, it matters not to me - just being with others in worship of God it seems to give me wings, transports me to Him.

]]> By: KentF http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48069 KentF Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:16:02 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48069 Since this thread was posted, I learned today that a son of Andy Reid, HC at Philadelphia, was busted for possession of heroine, illegal firearms, and several other items. Sad - I believe that is the second or third NFL coach's son this year that has been busted for drugs. Andy comes across to me as a super guy - also a devout family man. The position sure seems glamorous, but working 90 hours a week in a high stress environment makes family life difficult. Since this thread was posted, I learned today that a son of Andy Reid, HC at Philadelphia, was busted for possession of heroine, illegal firearms, and several other items. Sad - I believe that is the second or third NFL coach’s son this year that has been busted for drugs. Andy comes across to me as a super guy - also a devout family man. The position sure seems glamorous, but working 90 hours a week in a high stress environment makes family life difficult.

]]> By: Amy Boone http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48059 Amy Boone Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:29:13 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48059 "Pain lets us know we have a condition that needs to be healed..." Wow. Good. “Pain lets us know we have a condition that needs to be healed…” Wow. Good.

]]> By: Roger Brown http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48056 Roger Brown Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:12:21 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48056 There are songs that touch the mind and there are songs that touch the heart. Some songs are going to connect with those who are intelectual and others are going to connect with artistic types. I agree with Jason and "Mansions Over the Hilltop" but I personally know some who are moved spiritually when that song is sung...just not me! :) I like the song "The River of God", it makes sense to me and helps me express my heart to God but I know there are others who just plain do not like it. Having a blend of music styles in any given service can be difficult and frustrating but blending music over a given period of weeks/months is doable. As for my preferences...there is no doubt. I'm inconsistant! There are songs that touch the mind and there are songs that touch the heart. Some songs are going to connect with those who are intelectual and others are going to connect with artistic types.
I agree with Jason and “Mansions Over the Hilltop” but I personally know some who are moved spiritually when that song is sung…just not me! :)

I like the song “The River of God”, it makes sense to me and helps me express my heart to God but I know there are others who just plain do not like it.

Having a blend of music styles in any given service can be difficult and frustrating but blending music over a given period of weeks/months is doable.

As for my preferences…there is no doubt. I’m inconsistant!

]]> By: Beaner http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48051 Beaner Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:34:41 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48051 Yes, I don't want to sing songs just because I "like" them, but sometimes I think people hold onto the old songs or like the new songs for no other reason than they "like" them. That isn't worship, in my opinion. We have SOOO many songs to bring before our Lord & we need to be bringing Him our "best" in Worship. (And, yes, I realize you could argue for who gets to decide what's "best".) Yes, I don’t want to sing songs just because I “like” them, but sometimes I think people hold onto the old songs or like the new songs for no other reason than they “like” them. That isn’t worship, in my opinion. We have SOOO many songs to bring before our Lord & we need to be bringing Him our “best” in Worship. (And, yes, I realize you could argue for who gets to decide what’s “best”.)

]]> By: Amy http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48044 Amy Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:16:14 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48044 That tracing the rainbow line always gets me too. Thanks for this great post today. That tracing the rainbow line always gets me too.

Thanks for this great post today.

]]> By: Randy http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48041 Randy Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:55:22 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48041 My HTML didn't work. Here's the link to the picture. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-73045473pb018_super_bowl_xl_12_30_41_am&prov=getty My HTML didn’t work. Here’s the link to the picture.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-73045473pb018_super_bowl_xl_12_30_41_am&prov=getty

]]> By: Randy http://preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48040 Randy Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:53:34 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/06/life-outside-of-football#comment-48040 There is a great <a>picture</a> of Coach Dungy and his team after the game uniting in prayer. There is a great picture of Coach Dungy and his team after the game uniting in prayer.

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