Bears over Saints
Colts over Pats
Bears over Colts
My heart says Colts (with Peyton and with two former Abilene Cooper players). My head says Bears.
Chicago, 20-16.
Your picks?
By the way, doesn’t this seen a bit lame of the NFL?
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It was hard to get class going yesterday afternoon with beautiful big snowflakes falling in Abilene. One San Antonio student said she’d only seen snow a couple times before. Fortunately, there wasn’t enough to cancel the 8th grade basketball game between Lincoln and Mann, since someone’s grandparents (and younger cousin) had driven nine hours from Missouri to watch him play!
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Right now Diane and I are with Chris and all other eighth graders and their parents in a Wednesday night class called “Faith Decisions.” It’s one of the best ways I know to help students prepare to live out their faith in high school. For part of the class, we’re in different rooms (students and parents). Then we come together for brief exercises — especially ones that help the 8th graders learn more about the history and faith journey of their parents. This week we worked on this question: “What are five core beliefs that help define who you are.” Now THAT is something worth thinking about!
Three things I like about the class:
1. It’s intergenerational
2. It’s fun and interesting
3. I’m not responsible for anything (other than what any other parent is responsible for)
One of our best classes was when the youth minister taught the parents of the youth group for a couple weeks. He really explained things to us that we hadn’t thought of before. It was an eye opening experience (for all of us) and helped us parents to get on the same page. I think it’s great when the kids and parents can come together. I also recommend it.
It snowed in East Carolina yesterday, too!! These displaced West Virginians were thrilled. We drove 40 minutes to Kinston, where we had heard they had 2 inches. We had a great snowball fight. The best part was seeing a flock of robins land in our yard. There were more than 16, they move fast so we lost count.
We have a personal interest in the game since Victoria worked with Danieal (Manning) during her (football) coaching internship at ACU and he sat with us at all the J.V. football games that year, so we’ll be cheering for the Bears all the way. We’re thankful to Bob & Jan for starting the Faith Decisions class. It was a great time for us, also.
It’s good to read that “someone’s” grandparents came to watch him play basketball. So easy to take for granted what came close to not being possible.
Colts win with :06 seconds to go on the foot of Adam Vinatieri, who wins his 3 SB by kicking the winning points.
Bears!!! Gotta go with Urlacher and Manning!!!!
Collts 34 . . . Bears 21.
Peace.
COLTS!
Traci,
Where in East Carolina do you live? We spent three years in Greenville at ECU.
Robyn
Well, I’m gonna have to go with the Spurs on this one Mike. Kind of a no-brainer if you know what I mean?
And yep, it is kinda lame for the NFL to cancel that party.
Mike, are you going to the Alex Gee Event on Campus?
Mike,
DID CHRIS WIN???
How many points did he score? Assists? Rebounds? Free throws?
Come on, man!!!
Here’s the link in the Indianapolis Star about the NFL and the Fall Creek Baptist Church.
Josh - Did you get my note about the question from the first week of the “Faith Decisions” class? Students were asked what three people they’d like to have for dinner. Chris wrote, “Peyton Manning, Will Smith, and Josh Ross.” He explained that he couldn’t invite Will Smith without inviting you because he’s your favorite actor.
Yes, I got your note. That made my day. Kayci and I laughed for a while. Hope to see him next weekend when Diane comes down for the shower.
Tough game to predict. Bears defense is good, but has had trouble up the middle with loss of Harris. Plus, Urlacher is great cover two middle linebacker, but has trouble with straight on runs (most cover two mlbs do; they rely on speed and are usually smaller). Play action, which is P Manning strength, may cause a problem.
Will pick Colts to win. Justin Snow is a favorite, especially for what he does with his camp in Abilene each summer.
Colts, 35-30. (Already locked in at Bears +7. Colts by five makes me happy both ways!)
The “Faith Decisions” class sounds interesting. Is this material published or available?
Bears. But how do you think Peyton will feel when Grossman wins a ring before he does?
We’ve hosted the NFL Championship Game (can’t use the official name to refer to the game, I guess) at our congregation for over 9 years. I suppose this may be the last year for us. Too bad! I wonder, since we are showing it in HD and our screen is only 55 inches high if it would be allowed?
Bears Win. Peyton will never rise to the level of Grossman
Colts. Bears would NEVER be there had they not had home field advantage.
It will be a blow out. Colts 42. Bears 17.
Bears over Colts. Nice, pulling for the redemption of the struggling QB. I like it.
Our congregation is about to start the “Positive Choice” program with our teens and their parents ( http://www.positive-choice.org/ ). Note that there are several very similar web addresses that are not the same thing…
What’s with dancing at your alma mater?
http://www.thedailycitizen.com/articles/2007/02/01/news/top_stories/top01.txt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF4lFFo18Lg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDxrkYl_-Pc
Are you kidding me? Rex is not even half the QB that Peyton is!!! This is definitely a Colts win-Peyton deserves it, and the Manning/Harrison duo will ROCK (along with Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, etc-what a team!) The Bears do have a good defense (including Danieal Manning), but the Colts D has been stepping it up lately, too-so I am believing that the older Manning will take this one!!
Bears. No contest. Both my head and my heart say so. If only it could have been Bears/Pats and we could have brought back the SuperBowl Shuffle.
I love intergenerational stuff. Family ministry works so much better than youth ministry.
I’ve posted your blog as a link on mine. Hope that’s ok.
Forgot my five shaping beliefs. This is off the cuff, but I’d go with:
Jesus is God
Jesus loves me
Jesus loves you
I should love Jesus
I should love you
If the Super Bowl was being played in an open stadium up north with a cold/wet weather forecast, I’d go with the Bears. But in sunny Miami, I believe the Colts will come out on top. The Bears will miss the pass rush and run stopping ability of Tommie Harris, but I think they will miss safety Mike Brown even more. With both of those guys out, and the Colts defense playing much better in the playoffs, Colts win.
I hate to take the suspense out of this, but I was visited by Three Ghosts of the Chicago Bears Past, Present, and Future in a dream the other night. I was permitted to view the scoreboard at the end of the game.
The whole tale is linked below, but Spoiler Alert! - don’t read it if you want to be surprised while watching the game:
http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2007/01/da-bears-song-in-prose.html
My head says Colts by 12, but I am hoping for a Bears victory.
Hopefully we will see and MVP preformance from Manning.
The ruling on the church party is sad. It just goes to show
that the Super Bowl has become nothing more than a production.
The NFL is a money machine and ratings drive the product. It is
silly that a group of people cannot gather and watch the game in the
way they choose.
Go Bears.
Go Bears! I don’t know enough about the team players except names, thanks to my son and husband. But I do know that if the Bears win that my house will be on fire with excitement for several days after. So Go Bears!
I find it a shame that bars can show the game and not a church. That makes no sense, and if I knew who to write to complain about that I would! I am riled up!
Go Bears!! Score? Who knows? But hope the Bears take it!
As far as the NFL and the Church,if this church were in an area that could affect ticket sales, okay! But it is a bit of a distance from Indianapolis to Miami.
My church in San Diego used to place about 4-6 of the 55-in. TVs around the fellowship area, with snack tables in the middle to watch this high and mighty game. Noisy event, but a lot of fun. No one kept the same seat. You get up, you lose your spot to someone else.
Fun!
The outstanding offense versus the amazing defense will make it a fantastic game to watch. The quality defense will outlast the many-faceted offense:
Bears 17 - Colts 13
These two teams of integrity will cause former Cowboys fans to miss the good old days. It will be one of the most exciting games in years and it is almost too bad that either team has to lose this one. And it is too bad that it has to be interrupted by Prince.
not a big fan of those Manning boys . . . GO BEARS!
Man, now do I have an obligation to report this to the church we attend that has a Big Super Bowl party every year… Colts 28 Bears 14 by the way.
Robyn, we live in Greenville. We have been here two years. I am very willing to live here forever–unless I get the option of a WV mountain–East Carolina is a wonderful place.
Bears over Colts.
The NFL is regulating the party because of the size of the screen? Give me a break! I say show the game anyway.
Oh and the Bears are tired of being the underdog…they WILL play angry — Just remember what they did to the Saints who had the HIGHEST rated offense and passing…. What is everyone saying about the Colts’ offense?
On the class … how do you handle situations where kids do not have parents who attend services (there or anywhere?)?
I like the idea of the class, much like I enjoyed the Generation-to-Generation classes we used to have where I live. Thankfully, though, they finally cut that out here. I say that because I was a kid who sat through some of those classes having to “borrow” someone else’s parents. Not fun.
Just curious.
Great question, Rick!
The largest growing sector of our population, and the one we least minister to is the child raised by single parents. We have a whole generation of these kids in our midst. They don’t say much, but they are at least questioning what having both parents would mean to them,. More often, they are hurt, confused and yes, resentful of not being attended to by the church. But then, their parents, more often than not, were not ministered to either as single parents.
If your parent(s) do not attend church, maybe they could be convinced to accompany you to the class - that no pressure about staying for other services, but would they attend the class with you and for you? I pray they would respond to such an invitation from their child.
Rick -
Great question. Of course, that’s a problem that cuts all the way through a church that is committed to intergenerational relationships. It isn’t just a problem of one class. We cannot avoid putting parents with children just because not all families come together.
Two approaches: (1) encourage those parents who don’t normally attend to come for the special event; and (2) let those kids join in with another family. As you said, not ideal. But in the church we are learning that we are parents and siblings and uncles and aunts and cousins to one another in this extended family. I’ve seen absolutely amazing things happen as people became “like” a parent or uncle/aunt in the Christian community.
Thanks for sharing that from your perspective, though. That’s a VERY important perspective.
3. I’m not responsible for anything (other than what every other parent is responsible for).
When your religion is also your vocation, people (we) sometimes take advantage of the fact that you are a leader. Hope you can lay your burdens down in the class and relax a bit. I really enjoyed the class with my three daughters, and yes, it’s been a while.
On Rick’s question:
(My opinion)
One of the places the church is weak is our lack of generational mixing. We start out in the nursery with babies our age and stay with our age group through college. Then the young married class or singles, etc. etc.
We don’t even learn well how to relate to people older or younger.
It’s a socially imposed class division that the church has swallowed without (maybe) thinking about it. We try to welcome folks outside our age group to make lasting relationships, but sometimes we don’t do that too well. We are blessed in our small group to have babies, kids, college students, young parents, and us old fogies, and wouldn’t have it any other way. (Sometimes, things get a little crazy…) I say all that to get to this point:
As a church, our ideal should make us close enough to enough people(in and out of our own age/ sex/ marital status/ socio-economic/ political group) that we can step in to help an 8th grader who needs a surrogate parent, or a baby in the nursery who is upset, or a high school student struggling with something, or a young couple with problems, or a college student far from home. That requires a willingness to step out and love without expecting a return; to open the door, to seek that inter-connectedness. Jesus said that if we love only those who love us back, what good is that? Making ourselves available to others, sometimes on THEIR schedule, is tough love, indeed. Then again… maybe that’s at least part of what “church” is all about.
This is a late comment, but I strongly agree on the intergenerational need in our church. Older folks need younger people’s perspective, younger folks need the older’s–college students especially seem to crave relationships with church members who are older, need families when they are far from their own. Sometimes, we don’t even consider the college students “real” members (for a variety of reasons, non which seem too scriptural).
Bible Study Fellowship International (BSF) made that change a decade ago, placing small groups with their own age–BIG mistake imhbco!
Carolyn
Colts. Manning.
okay..i pick the Saints….you never know..its too late?…okay, I say the Colts because I teach with Dominic Rhodes’ mom…
Oh, so it’s the Bears and Colts in the Superbowl? Hmm. That’s good to know. ;-D
As Colin Cowherd said, what kind of message would the good Lord be sending the children if the hard-workin, humble Peyton didn’t win this game over the QB with not-so-steallar reputatation?
At first impression I thought the NFL response was a little lame. However, I think a church charging admission to watch is even lamer.
Oh yeah, I forgot…
I’m rootin’ Colts.
G’ampa C and Carolyn D - I totally and wholeheartedly agree with y’all!!!
I love that you are doing the “Faith Decisions”-that is great! I absolutely love teenagers-we can learn so much from them, really. On the church thing, from what I can see churches do not know what to do with single people-there are so many programs for children, youth, college age, but once you graduate-people are just not sure what to do with you; and I know it can be the same and sometimes worse when you are a single parent.
It is harder to find community, and it is usually at the time when you need it most. Talk about irony.
By the way, you should check out my post about my friend who plays for the Colts, Hunter Smith-he is great. GO COLTS!!
My comment might have been misleading. I’m grown now and was just thinking back to my experiences growing up in a church my parents did not attend.
What several of you pointed out, though, is exactly what happened in my case. I had several families who “took me in” and mentored me, etc. I still think of those as my family.
Thanks for the comments.