Comments on: Thursdays http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:56:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bobby Valentine http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46796 Bobby Valentine Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:05:24 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46796 I too appreciate your reflections on seremon prep. I follow a similiar procedure ... minus the Spanish testament. I try to map out a series quite a bit in advance which gives me lots of time to ruminate. One practice that I started about four years ago was to engage the text I am preaching through "lectio divina" during the week leading up to Sunday. It has greatly blessed and enriched my lessons. As for the smoking ... I do not mind a person smoking in their car, in their home but I do not like smoke coming over from the table next to me. Shalom, Bobby Valentine I too appreciate your reflections on seremon prep. I follow a similiar procedure … minus the Spanish testament. I try to map out a series quite a bit in advance which gives me lots of time to ruminate.

One practice that I started about four years ago was to engage the text I am preaching through “lectio divina” during the week leading up to Sunday. It has greatly blessed and enriched my lessons.

As for the smoking … I do not mind a person smoking in their car, in their home but I do not like smoke coming over from the table next to me.

Shalom,
Bobby Valentine

]]> By: Tina http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46422 Tina Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:38:23 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46422 Mike, no one from my state (Georgia) has announced for President either. Guess we're in the same boat. Mike, no one from my state (Georgia) has announced for President either. Guess we’re in the same boat.

]]> By: justin http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46421 justin Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:32:38 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46421 Dude, Roland... the government knows best about everything. We need the government to determine what fair pay is... we need them to determine what my kid learns in school, we need them to determine what doctor I go to. Cause corporations are evil and people are stupid... but Government... Government is close to God. Dude, Roland… the government knows best about everything. We need the government to determine what fair pay is… we need them to determine what my kid learns in school, we need them to determine what doctor I go to.

Cause corporations are evil and people are stupid… but Government… Government is close to God.

]]> By: Roland http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46293 Roland Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:07:15 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46293 Sorry, the Libertarians have it right. Govco has NO business telling a private business what it can or cannot do. That is up to the free market place as it should be. As our Founding Fathers meant it to be. It all started with laws regarding seatbelts and the whole country slid down the slope to "Govco knows best how to protect you and your famiy." Sorry, the Libertarians have it right. Govco has NO business telling a private business what it can or cannot do. That is up to the free market place as it should be. As our Founding Fathers meant it to be.

It all started with laws regarding seatbelts and the whole country slid down the slope to “Govco knows best how to protect you and your famiy.”

]]> By: Jeff Jenkins http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46231 Jeff Jenkins Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:11:25 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46231 I'll admit - my favorite sermons have been the ones that were born out of the process that you mentioned - though I can't bust out my Greek NT and Spanish Bible and do much of anything beyond recognize a word here and there. Like Dusty said - I would love to see you and many others in ministry today go through their process... but there's no way I could do what you do. You're genius!...but very understandable! I'm thankful for your work and the way you're doing life and ministry. Thanks I’ll admit - my favorite sermons have been the ones that were born out of the process that you mentioned - though I can’t bust out my Greek NT and Spanish Bible and do much of anything beyond recognize a word here and there.

Like Dusty said - I would love to see you and many others in ministry today go through their process… but there’s no way I could do what you do. You’re genius!…but very understandable!

I’m thankful for your work and the way you’re doing life and ministry.

Thanks

]]> By: Justin http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46228 Justin Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:02:28 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46228 I think some of ya'll missed my point that you do have options of resturaunts to go to that don't allow smoking. And if there's a big enough market for it, then some resturaunts (and even bars, there are a few in nashville) will become non smoking of their own free will. Its called freedom and capitalism. Vote with your dollars by not patronizing resturaunts that allow smoking. I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with a resturaunt deciding on its own to ban smoking. Its their PRIVATE PROPERTY and they can do with it whatever they want. They allow people in, and cater to their wants and needs to make money. If a resturaunt has crappy food, what happens? They go out of business or they get better food. Smoking should be the same. Its harmful to my hearing when people and music are loud in resturaunts. Should we ban music and talking to prevent my hearing loss? I think some of ya’ll missed my point that you do have options of resturaunts to go to that don’t allow smoking. And if there’s a big enough market for it, then some resturaunts (and even bars, there are a few in nashville) will become non smoking of their own free will. Its called freedom and capitalism. Vote with your dollars by not patronizing resturaunts that allow smoking. I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with a resturaunt deciding on its own to ban smoking. Its their PRIVATE PROPERTY and they can do with it whatever they want. They allow people in, and cater to their wants and needs to make money. If a resturaunt has crappy food, what happens? They go out of business or they get better food. Smoking should be the same.

Its harmful to my hearing when people and music are loud in resturaunts. Should we ban music and talking to prevent my hearing loss?

]]> By: Royce Ogle http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46194 Royce Ogle Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:50:10 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46194 How often have I heard sermons with 3 main points and 3 sub points with alliteration, a funny story to open and tear jerker conclusion, that were as dry as powder? And then I have heard sermons with no clearly defined points, nothing clever or cute, but with the power and demonstration of the Spirit evidenced. I have also preached both. I have found that until the message grips my heart and changes me it is not fit to pass on to others. I fear that many of us set in pews to critique the preacher more than to hear from heaven. Perhaps God has a different view of what a "good" sermon is than do we. Grace and Peace, Royce Ogle How often have I heard sermons with 3 main points and 3 sub points with alliteration, a funny story to open and tear jerker conclusion, that were as dry as powder? And then I have heard sermons with no clearly defined points, nothing clever or cute, but with the power and demonstration of the Spirit evidenced.

I have also preached both. I have found that until the message grips my heart and changes me it is not fit to pass on to others. I fear that many of us set in pews to critique the preacher more than to hear from heaven. Perhaps God has a different view of what a “good” sermon is than do we.

Grace and Peace,
Royce Ogle

]]> By: Trey http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46181 Trey Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:22:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46181 Okay ... if I understand what's going on here ... for topics we have sermon preparation, smoking, and now Beaner has brought in how nudity is like smoking. I guess for me this means no more smoking while preparing my sermons in the nude! Oh, yea, on Thursdays. just kidding Okay … if I understand what’s going on here … for topics we have sermon preparation, smoking, and now Beaner has brought in how nudity is like smoking.

I guess for me this means no more smoking while preparing my sermons in the nude! Oh, yea, on Thursdays.

just kidding

]]> By: MH http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46157 MH Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:47:47 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46157 The process you describe of writing a sermon is just the process that occurs when one becomes a MASTER (using Yoda's terms) of a particular subject. Physics, medicine, and even dressmaking..... You can't get there by the Holy Spirit......isn't that like sleeping on your book to prepare for a test? You have study the subject, then you reach the level of "mulling." Until then...READ THE BOOK! Why worry so much if God can talk to you and tell you what to say...if he does that, then surely he can talk directly to the guy in the pew and tell him what he needs to know??? Not there...don't know what I'm talking about. The process you describe of writing a sermon is just the process that occurs when one becomes a MASTER (using Yoda’s terms) of a particular subject. Physics, medicine, and even dressmaking…..

You can’t get there by the Holy Spirit……isn’t that like sleeping on your book to prepare for a test? You have study the subject, then you reach the level of “mulling.” Until then…READ THE BOOK!

Why worry so much if God can talk to you and tell you what to say…if he does that, then surely he can talk directly to the guy in the pew and tell him what he needs to know???

Not there…don’t know what I’m talking about.

]]> By: Beth http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46156 Beth Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:44:21 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46156 Arkansas recently passed a wide-spread no-smoking ban...not only in restaurants but in workplaces! How wonderful for those of us who wind up in the hospital with just a little exposure to tobacco smoke. We are thankful! Arkansas recently passed a wide-spread no-smoking ban…not only in restaurants but in workplaces! How wonderful for those of us who wind up in the hospital with just a little exposure to tobacco smoke. We are thankful!

]]> By: Mike #2 http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46107 Mike #2 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:53:57 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46107 Quoting: "Whenever it’s time for me to prepare my next sermon, it helps me to crack open a copy of “The Faith of George W.Bush” and light up a big stogie." This is the funniest thing I've seen all week! Thanks for the laugh... Quoting: "People go to bars to drink and most drinkers smoke. They enjoy a drink and smoke. " I have to take objection to this one... it really gives all of us drinkers a bad name. ;) But, regardless, I think your math may be off. I also really wish that Abilene had a few good pubs... Cheers kinda places. I enjoy finding them when I travel. Kind of the church of the common man - in many ways. As for Texas Senators running for president - God help us all. I was really hoping that Hutchinson would run for governor... that way she could only undermine the well being of the poor in Texas instead of nationwide. Molly Ivins will be missed. I'm glad the Abilene City Council finally had the courage to pass the smoking ban. I had expected it to be indefinitely tabled. So it took a non-binding referendum to provide the cover, at least they came through in the end. Okay, enough random thoughts for one day. Quoting: “Whenever it’s time for me to prepare my next sermon, it helps me to crack open a copy of “The Faith of George W.Bush” and light up a big stogie.”

This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week! Thanks for the laugh…

Quoting: “People go to bars to drink and most drinkers smoke. They enjoy a drink and smoke. ”

I have to take objection to this one… it really gives all of us drinkers a bad name. ;) But, regardless, I think your math may be off. I also really wish that Abilene had a few good pubs… Cheers kinda places. I enjoy finding them when I travel. Kind of the church of the common man - in many ways.

As for Texas Senators running for president - God help us all. I was really hoping that Hutchinson would run for governor… that way she could only undermine the well being of the poor in Texas instead of nationwide.

Molly Ivins will be missed.

I’m glad the Abilene City Council finally had the courage to pass the smoking ban. I had expected it to be indefinitely tabled. So it took a non-binding referendum to provide the cover, at least they came through in the end.

Okay, enough random thoughts for one day.

]]> By: Jim Martin http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46106 Jim Martin Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:52:20 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46106 Mike, I enjoyed peeking over your shoulder as you prepare a sermon. I relate to your experience. Years ago, sermon prepreparation seemed more wooden and forced at times. I still find the preparation itself to be difficult but incredibly more satisfying. Mike,
I enjoyed peeking over your shoulder as you prepare a sermon. I relate to your experience. Years ago, sermon prepreparation seemed more wooden and forced at times. I still find the preparation itself to be difficult but incredibly more satisfying.

]]> By: Beaner http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46098 Beaner Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:39:46 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46098 Also....smoking is like being nude. It's OK in my own home, but I can't be naked in public. (And would public nudity really be as hurtful as public smoking? At least nudity doesn't cause cancer!) ;) Also….smoking is like being nude. It’s OK in my own home, but I can’t be naked in public. (And would public nudity really be as hurtful as public smoking? At least nudity doesn’t cause cancer!) ;)

]]> By: Beaner http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46096 Beaner Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:29:40 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46096 Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's right. Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s right.

]]> By: KentF http://preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46094 KentF Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:25:55 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2007/02/01/thursdays#comment-46094 I dare anyone to watch "Thank you for Smoking" and not laugh out loud many times (caution - it is rated R). Texas politics won't be the same without Molly - God rest her soul. I dare anyone to watch “Thank you for Smoking” and not laugh out loud many times (caution - it is rated R). Texas politics won’t be the same without Molly - God rest her soul.

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