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		<title>By: matt elliott</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45426</link>
		<dc:creator>matt elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, David.  I can't imagine a more thorough answer!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, David.  I can&#8217;t imagine a more thorough answer!  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45368</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't grow up in the church, but I've been around long enough to know the significance of 728b. :-)

I seem to remember there's a hymn in that particular songbook with a number and then "a" after it.  Can't remember which number though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t grow up in the church, but I&#8217;ve been around long enough to know the significance of 728b. <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I seem to remember there&#8217;s a hymn in that particular songbook with a number and then &#8220;a&#8221; after it.  Can&#8217;t remember which number though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Johnson</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45348</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
Sorry you didn't make it back with the mug.  Randy Gill told me he saw that you had left it, and he made absolutely no qualms about stashing in his bag for himself.  You know, he might have even had a chance to remind you, but decided instead to seize the opportunity in front of him...you know how that Randy can be. :)  

I'll try to remember to bring you another one at Pepperdine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Sorry you didn&#8217;t make it back with the mug.  Randy Gill told me he saw that you had left it, and he made absolutely no qualms about stashing in his bag for himself.  You know, he might have even had a chance to remind you, but decided instead to seize the opportunity in front of him&#8230;you know how that Randy can be. <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to remember to bring you another one at Pepperdine.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chapin</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45272</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chapin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure this is too late to be of any use. It was 728b because the publishers had already numbered a song "729" and it was printed on the inside of the back cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure this is too late to be of any use. It was 728b because the publishers had already numbered a song &#8220;729&#8243; and it was printed on the inside of the back cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45271</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David R.

&lt;i&gt;Gracias - sin embargo, no se admiraban el numero, sino el himno.  &lt;/i&gt;   :)

Thanks! However, the number wasn't revered, only the hymn [Anthem] itself.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David R.</p>
<p><i>Gracias - sin embargo, no se admiraban el numero, sino el himno.  </i>   <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks! However, the number wasn&#8217;t revered, only the hymn [Anthem] itself.  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45253</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy - I have a confession to make.  I didn't make it home with my 728b mug.  Here's my guess:  I went to the back to grab my Powerbook before rushing off to the airport.  I'm afraid I set it down there.  Just wanted you to know that it wasn't intentional!  Just in too big of a hurry.  Great new additions to the site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy - I have a confession to make.  I didn&#8217;t make it home with my 728b mug.  Here&#8217;s my guess:  I went to the back to grab my Powerbook before rushing off to the airport.  I&#8217;m afraid I set it down there.  Just wanted you to know that it wasn&#8217;t intentional!  Just in too big of a hurry.  Great new additions to the site!</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45158</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Deana actually gets Target cards out of this.... Seriously! 

Until I was in the fifth grade I could have swarn we sang about A "night with Ed and Pin-yon"...and I wondered who the heck was named "Pin-yon" and where was "Ed" in the Bible? :)

Hard to type and feed a baby.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Deana actually gets Target cards out of this&#8230;. Seriously! </p>
<p>Until I was in the fifth grade I could have swarn we sang about A &#8220;night with Ed and Pin-yon&#8221;&#8230;and I wondered who the heck was named &#8220;Pin-yon&#8221; and where was &#8220;Ed&#8221; in the Bible? <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hard to type and feed a baby&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn W</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45152</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm surprised Wendy P  didn't mention "The congregation listened with that pain and agony, he bored them all, that they might sleep."

I had the interesting experience of attending worship at a "Northern-most" cofc, and I heard ALL the 50's phrases like "guide, garden directus" (definately LATIN - Southern Latin) and it was like a "flashback" to my 40's-50's homechurch in a small town.  Three songs and a prayer.   Now that's ONE target-rich environment for Zoe!!   The fields are still teeming, Mike.  (I'm so sorry I missed you at Zoe Conference.)   I sent my nieces some Zoe CD's in that northern-most congregation...they've never heard of them.  Heh heh...I may have made a few people uncomfortable as I raised my hands toward the heavens during one hymn.   But...the music was appropriate for my action, and it's what I felt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised Wendy P  didn&#8217;t mention &#8220;The congregation listened with that pain and agony, he bored them all, that they might sleep.&#8221;</p>
<p>I had the interesting experience of attending worship at a &#8220;Northern-most&#8221; cofc, and I heard ALL the 50&#8217;s phrases like &#8220;guide, garden directus&#8221; (definately LATIN - Southern Latin) and it was like a &#8220;flashback&#8221; to my 40&#8217;s-50&#8217;s homechurch in a small town.  Three songs and a prayer.   Now that&#8217;s ONE target-rich environment for Zoe!!   The fields are still teeming, Mike.  (I&#8217;m so sorry I missed you at Zoe Conference.)   I sent my nieces some Zoe CD&#8217;s in that northern-most congregation&#8230;they&#8217;ve never heard of them.  Heh heh&#8230;I may have made a few people uncomfortable as I raised my hands toward the heavens during one hymn.   But&#8230;the music was appropriate for my action, and it&#8217;s what I felt!</p>
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		<title>By: David Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45104</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Elliott:  

I'm not sure, since I find even the final verse of 728B inscrutable, but I suspect that the book had been legally planned with 728 numbered items, and all copyright permissions had been granted on the basis of publication in a book of 728 numbered items.  Thus 728B was a way of stretching without having to renegotiate everything so that the book could have 729.  But I'm not sure.  I do live in Louisiana where that book was published, and many years ago, long before that book was published, there was a state highway which bore the number 99 1/2, evidently because highways numbered from 100 up received a lower priority, notwithstanding my father's attempt to convince me as a lad that LA 99 1/2 was just the left lane of LA 99.  In my post for November 9, 2006, I observed that Louisiana is paradise.  Now, one of the reasons why our license plates can claim that we are in paradise ("Sportsman's Paradise") is our entrepreneuring outlook down here.  It happens not only with numbers but also with words.  The State Constitution posits that "the Legislature shall define and suppress gambling."  So one day the Legislature defined a casino as being something other than gambling, and, voilà, a casino became not gambling but gaming.  The 728B Anthem is insightful in its insistence that in God "we live and we survive."  In casinos, it is doubtful that we do either.

Kathy:

El himno se admira en español. ¡Bravo!

The Anthem is revered in Spanish.  Superb!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Elliott:  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure, since I find even the final verse of 728B inscrutable, but I suspect that the book had been legally planned with 728 numbered items, and all copyright permissions had been granted on the basis of publication in a book of 728 numbered items.  Thus 728B was a way of stretching without having to renegotiate everything so that the book could have 729.  But I&#8217;m not sure.  I do live in Louisiana where that book was published, and many years ago, long before that book was published, there was a state highway which bore the number 99 1/2, evidently because highways numbered from 100 up received a lower priority, notwithstanding my father&#8217;s attempt to convince me as a lad that LA 99 1/2 was just the left lane of LA 99.  In my post for November 9, 2006, I observed that Louisiana is paradise.  Now, one of the reasons why our license plates can claim that we are in paradise (&#8221;Sportsman&#8217;s Paradise&#8221;) is our entrepreneuring outlook down here.  It happens not only with numbers but also with words.  The State Constitution posits that &#8220;the Legislature shall define and suppress gambling.&#8221;  So one day the Legislature defined a casino as being something other than gambling, and, voilà, a casino became not gambling but gaming.  The 728B Anthem is insightful in its insistence that in God &#8220;we live and we survive.&#8221;  In casinos, it is doubtful that we do either.</p>
<p>Kathy:</p>
<p>El himno se admira en español. ¡Bravo!</p>
<p>The Anthem is revered in Spanish.  Superb!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, 

Thanks for the post and link to my shop.  I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussion that it started.

I also thought you might like to see a few new designs that I put up today.  www.cafepress.com/728b  

-Jeremy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, </p>
<p>Thanks for the post and link to my shop.  I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussion that it started.</p>
<p>I also thought you might like to see a few new designs that I put up today.  <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/728b" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafepress.com/728b</a>  </p>
<p>-Jeremy</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45088</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, David.  I've sung this hymn all my life, including 30 years in Spanish, but just didn't know it was a revered number, an after-thought number, but revered all the same.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, David.  I&#8217;ve sung this hymn all my life, including 30 years in Spanish, but just didn&#8217;t know it was a revered number, an after-thought number, but revered all the same.  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: matt elliott</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45079</link>
		<dc:creator>matt elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don't understand why it wasn't just 729.</description>
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		<title>By: David Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2007/01/28/leaky-knowledge-and-homework#comment-45069</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy:

Put "Our God, He Is Alive" into a good search engine, and you will probably come to it.  One location is 
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1023357 .  The number it had in a widely used hymnbook is 728B.  There were 728 numbers, and then "Our God, He Is Alive" possibly came out after the agreements and printing arrangements had been made for the first 728.

Brian:

I'm pleasantly surprised that the FHU prof had the audacity to question The Anthem, but I cautiously avoided stating that the final verse "makes no sense whatsoever."  What I did write was that I "lack the ability to discern" the sense that is there.  Further, in staunch Campbellian hermeneutics, the age of miracles having ceased, yet here one witnesses a noun which is simultaneously objective and nominative, like the cow with two heads, a phenomenon which Cotton Mather could ascribe only to supernatural cause.  Although nothing unclean can enter into heaven, The Anthem avers that God holds "the germ" within His hands.  Be nice to The Anthem until one day when "We Shall Overcome" and "the crooked shall be made straight and the rough ways shall be made smooth," presumably even in 728B, and we shall understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy:</p>
<p>Put &#8220;Our God, He Is Alive&#8221; into a good search engine, and you will probably come to it.  One location is<br />
<a href="http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1023357" rel="nofollow">http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1023357</a> .  The number it had in a widely used hymnbook is 728B.  There were 728 numbers, and then &#8220;Our God, He Is Alive&#8221; possibly came out after the agreements and printing arrangements had been made for the first 728.</p>
<p>Brian:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleasantly surprised that the FHU prof had the audacity to question The Anthem, but I cautiously avoided stating that the final verse &#8220;makes no sense whatsoever.&#8221;  What I did write was that I &#8220;lack the ability to discern&#8221; the sense that is there.  Further, in staunch Campbellian hermeneutics, the age of miracles having ceased, yet here one witnesses a noun which is simultaneously objective and nominative, like the cow with two heads, a phenomenon which Cotton Mather could ascribe only to supernatural cause.  Although nothing unclean can enter into heaven, The Anthem avers that God holds &#8220;the germ&#8221; within His hands.  Be nice to The Anthem until one day when &#8220;We Shall Overcome&#8221; and &#8220;the crooked shall be made straight and the rough ways shall be made smooth,&#8221; presumably even in 728B, and we shall understand.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about, "And bless it to its intended use"?   When he was very young, my son pulled on my arm during communion(where this phrase was heard over &#38; over for 100 years), &#38; whispered, "Mom, what does intended juice taste like?"  I whispered back, "I don't know, because we're not allowed to drink it in the cofC".  No, really, what I said was, "it tastes alot like this grape juice we're drinking."  Bless his little heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about, &#8220;And bless it to its intended use&#8221;?   When he was very young, my son pulled on my arm during communion(where this phrase was heard over &amp; over for 100 years), &amp; whispered, &#8220;Mom, what does intended juice taste like?&#8221;  I whispered back, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know, because we&#8217;re not allowed to drink it in the cofC&#8221;.  No, really, what I said was, &#8220;it tastes alot like this grape juice we&#8217;re drinking.&#8221;  Bless his little heart.</p>
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		<title>By: WendyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>WendyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peas, perfect peas?

My husband and his brothers wrote alternative lyrics to a hymn or two.  "A Beautiful Life" became "the spam song."  And they put their hands over their hearts when singing 728b.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peas, perfect peas?</p>
<p>My husband and his brothers wrote alternative lyrics to a hymn or two.  &#8220;A Beautiful Life&#8221; became &#8220;the spam song.&#8221;  And they put their hands over their hearts when singing 728b.</p>
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