Comments on: Sandhill Crane Fajitas http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032 Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:35:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Brady http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-75398 Brady Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:04:42 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-75398 Phil, according Cherokee histories, the animals (other than the ground squirrel) declared war on man for eating them. No special reverence was held for the animals. Prayers were uttered to keep Little Deer from following you home and making you ill in the night. Plants are another can of worms. I cannot speak outside of my own background here, but most of the belief stuctures of the south eastern indigenous peoples revolved around balance. Hunting some animals and not others does nothing to promote balance in the environment. It sounds like you think that he is ignorant because you think that the sandhill crane is majestic. I think that deer are majestic, which is kind of a trait shared by the lion's share of creation in one way or another. I still hunt deer (cranes too). Good stewardship is based on balance. Through harmony with the world that we live in, we can follow passage cited by Brent. Respect is fundamental to balance. Respect for Mike, Brent, God, your quarry, and those who have differing views on the matter at hand will go a long way toward understanding both them and yourself. Phil, according Cherokee histories, the animals (other than the ground squirrel) declared war on man for eating them. No special reverence was held for the animals. Prayers were uttered to keep Little Deer from following you home and making you ill in the night. Plants are another can of worms. I cannot speak outside of my own background here, but most of the belief stuctures of the south eastern indigenous peoples revolved around balance. Hunting some animals and not others does nothing to promote balance in the environment. It sounds like you think that he is ignorant because you think that the sandhill crane is majestic. I think that deer are majestic, which is kind of a trait shared by the lion’s share of creation in one way or another. I still hunt deer (cranes too). Good stewardship is based on balance. Through harmony with the world that we live in, we can follow passage cited by Brent. Respect is fundamental to balance. Respect for Mike, Brent, God, your quarry, and those who have differing views on the matter at hand will go a long way toward understanding both them and yourself.

]]> By: Brent http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-73708 Brent Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:57:12 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-73708 How any true hunter can put down the preferences of another hunter is beyond me. Genesis 9:3 "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything". This is not God telling us that we "must" eat animals but He is certainly giving us permission so lets keep our preferences to ourselves. How any true hunter can put down the preferences of another hunter is beyond me. Genesis 9:3 “Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything”. This is not God telling us that we “must” eat animals but He is certainly giving us permission so lets keep our preferences to ourselves.

]]> By: Charles Brazier http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-41266 Charles Brazier Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:12:51 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-41266 Google is the best search engine Google is the best search engine

]]> By: Phil http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-34536 Phil Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:08:44 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-34536 I am an avid hunter, I eat game birds, squirrel, rabbit, hog, deer, and other meat that can be harvested legally in the field. The majestic Sandhill crane may be taken during some whacky season in your area, but I would NEVER shoot a sandhill crane with anything else than a slr camera sir. I think you are hunter that has put ignorance before good stewardship. My city is named after the "call of the Sandhill crane" by native Americans. I wonder if you have respect for that. I am an avid hunter, I eat game birds, squirrel, rabbit, hog, deer, and other meat that can be harvested legally in the field. The majestic Sandhill crane may be taken during some whacky season in your area, but I would NEVER shoot a sandhill crane with anything else than a slr camera sir. I think you are hunter that has put ignorance before good stewardship. My city is named after the “call of the Sandhill crane” by native Americans. I wonder if you have respect for that.

]]> By: Kent Dickerson http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33901 Kent Dickerson Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:51:23 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33901 Mike, don't be intimidated. Anyone who does not believe animals are for eating hasn't read much of the old testament. Never tried sandhill cranes but have hunted plenty of dove, quail, deer, and elk. I never really liked dove so used to trade for quail with a hunting buddy. Always thought I got the best deal on that one. My dad loved hunting so much hunting season was about the only time he overcame his quiet nature and talked. Though have'nt been lately it still has a fond place in my heart. On being a single parent, we have lots of those here who are single again for a year at a time while their spouse is deployed. Many had just returned this past Sunday. Talk about a joyous crowd! It is amazing what people sacrifice for the love of their country. The chapel men's group has had in place for a while a program to help the spouses called operation handiman. We go out in twos or more and move things, paint, mow, change the oil..., whatever they might be wishing their spouse were here to do around the house. Other churches might consider something like this for their single mothers. Mike, don’t be intimidated. Anyone who does not believe animals are for eating hasn’t read much of the old testament. Never tried sandhill cranes but have hunted plenty of dove, quail, deer, and elk. I never really liked dove so used to trade for quail with a hunting buddy. Always thought I got the best deal on that one. My dad loved hunting so much hunting season was about the only time he overcame his quiet nature and talked. Though have’nt been lately it still has a fond place in my heart.
On being a single parent, we have lots of those here who are single again for a year at a time while their spouse is deployed. Many had just returned this past Sunday. Talk about a joyous crowd! It is amazing what people sacrifice for the love of their country. The chapel men’s group has had in place for a while a program to help the spouses called operation handiman. We go out in twos or more and move things, paint, mow, change the oil…, whatever they might be wishing their spouse were here to do around the house. Other churches might consider something like this for their single mothers.

]]> By: becky http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33412 becky Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:24:19 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33412 What to do for the single parent...hmmm...I was hoping that as a single parent for more than 15 years, I would have a succinct and compelling response. Tips to assist a single parent: Talk with us. Include us. Sit by us at church. Speak with our children. Take interest in our children. Pray for us, the Spirit is faithful to bring to your mind our needs. Tips for the single parent: 1. Never speak negatively of the other parent in front of your children, and choose wisely those to whom you vent, if you must. There are Bible verses to support this. 2. Don't do things out of bitterness, rage or lack of sel-control that you will regret later. Good advice for everyone not just single parents. 3. Place your children around Godly families. 4. Go to church, even when it hurts. Find another congregation if you must, but go to church. 5. Try not to take things personally. When people speak of divorce or single parent families, they are speaking in general, not about you. Also, although it seems like you are all alone and no one considers your needs, they are not forgetting you personally, they are just not aware of you. Be present, be involved, and they will likely become more perceptive. 6. Try to go to Bible class or a small group. The intimacy in smaller numbers sometimes provides opportunities to bless others by your presence and for them to bless you in your need. 7. Admit to your children when you are exhausted, whether emotionally, physically, or financially. They need to know that you are not being rational; remember, there is no other parent to step in and give you space. Plus, who better than your children to lift you up in prayer when you are in need? Ask them to pray for you, and when you have taken your time-out, pray with them. 8. Ask God to fill the needs you have. He created you. He knows how He made you, and He, alone, has the resources to heal, comfort, and support you and your children. 9. Stay in the word. It keeps things in perspective. Just as Isaiah was not the only faithful one, neither are you all alone. God bless you. What to do for the single parent…hmmm…I was hoping that as a single parent for more than 15 years, I would have a succinct and compelling response. Tips to assist a single parent:
Talk with us. Include us. Sit by us at church. Speak with our children. Take interest in our children. Pray for us, the Spirit is faithful to bring to your mind our needs.

Tips for the single parent:
1. Never speak negatively of the other parent in front of your children, and choose wisely those to whom you vent, if you must. There are Bible verses to support this.
2. Don’t do things out of bitterness, rage or lack of sel-control that you will regret later. Good advice for everyone not just single parents.
3. Place your children around Godly families.
4. Go to church, even when it hurts. Find another congregation if you must, but go to church.
5. Try not to take things personally. When people speak of divorce or single parent families, they are speaking in general, not about you. Also, although it seems like you are all alone and no one considers your needs, they are not forgetting you personally, they are just not aware of you. Be present, be involved, and they will likely become more perceptive.
6. Try to go to Bible class or a small group. The intimacy in smaller numbers sometimes provides opportunities to bless others by your presence and for them to bless you in your need.
7. Admit to your children when you are exhausted, whether emotionally, physically, or financially. They need to know that you are not being rational; remember, there is no other parent to step in and give you space. Plus, who better than your children to lift you up in prayer when you are in need? Ask them to pray for you, and when you have taken your time-out, pray with them.
8. Ask God to fill the needs you have. He created you. He knows how He made you, and He, alone, has the resources to heal, comfort, and support you and your children.
9. Stay in the word. It keeps things in perspective. Just as Isaiah was not the only faithful one, neither are you all alone. God bless you.

]]> By: beverly http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33163 beverly Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:17:50 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-33163 Kathy, I cried when I read your comments on how to reach out to single parents. I have to be honest and say that I have never felt more lonely than I have felt lately at church.I have had several times now people stand in front of me and make lunch plans with others. It has really opened my eyes as to how to deal with someone that I know is hurting. Not only am I separated right now at holiday time but we have had to deal with some pretty intense things in other areas and I feel so alone sometimes. I went out to Nelson Park in the dark the other night crying out to my God as I paced back and forth around that lake. I ran 4 miles last night pleading for wisdom and strength to get through all this. You are so right when you said that it just takes doing something, lightning one load so the single parent can deal with all the other balls dropping. I woke up one sat. morning to someone mowing my lawn. This was it, exactly what I needed and I wept. It was so precious. Just thank you for your words. Its filling a gas tank ..its bringing by a casserole and saying you don't know what to say...its calling the kids to check on them...its simple things that mean so much. hmmm..maybe I will write a book after its all said and done. God bless you for your insight and for making me feel noticed... Don't get me wrong, my God is everpresent that I feel that but it has surprised me how the church really does not know what to do with me. Mike, thank you for bringing this subject up. I love and admire you , brother! Kathy,

I cried when I read your comments on how to reach out to single parents. I have to be honest and say that I have never felt more lonely than I have felt lately at church.I have had several times now people stand in front of me and make lunch plans with others. It has really opened my eyes as to how to deal with someone that I know is hurting. Not only am I separated right now at holiday time but we have had to deal with some pretty intense things in other areas and I feel so alone sometimes. I went out to Nelson Park in the dark the other night crying out to my God as I paced back and forth around that lake. I ran 4 miles last night pleading for wisdom and strength to get through all this. You are so right when you said that it just takes doing something, lightning one load so the single parent can deal with all the other balls dropping. I woke up one sat. morning to someone mowing my lawn. This was it, exactly what I needed and I wept. It was so precious. Just thank you for your words. Its filling a gas tank ..its bringing by a casserole and saying you don’t know what to say…its calling the kids to check on them…its simple things that mean so much. hmmm..maybe I will write a book after its all said and done.
God bless you for your insight and for making me feel noticed…
Don’t get me wrong, my God is everpresent that I feel that but it has surprised me how the church really does not know what to do with me. Mike, thank you for bringing this subject up. I love and admire you , brother!

]]> By: rinn http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32992 rinn Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:46:08 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32992 I love hunting and fishing as well. As a kid my dad took us all hunting. We hunted everything though. Along with the usual dove,duck,quail,deer and other "normal" prey, we hunted armadillos, field larks, and just about anything else that had meat on it. We also raised and ate pigs, chickens and pigeons. Some of those things are tricky to clean and you need a good recipe to make them palitable. My mom was a great cook. I love hunting and fishing as well.
As a kid my dad took us all hunting. We hunted everything though. Along with the usual dove,duck,quail,deer and other “normal” prey, we hunted armadillos, field larks, and just about anything else that had meat on it. We also raised and ate pigs, chickens and pigeons. Some of those things are tricky to clean and you need a good recipe to make them palitable. My mom was a great cook.

]]> By: Amy http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32861 Amy Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:33:05 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32861 Lisa Shields, I second your comment from 11:57 a.m. ...but wait, I'm afraid I'm one of the regulars at this (coffee house) blog. Lisa Shields, I second your comment from 11:57 a.m.

…but wait, I’m afraid I’m one of the regulars at this (coffee house) blog.

]]> By: Jordan Hubbard http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32840 Jordan Hubbard Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:17:58 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32840 Mike, I have hunted sandhill crane and have a great recipe for them. Let me share. Clean crane. Soak the meat in saltwater for about 12 hours. Drain it, then soak it in orange juice and tomato juice for another 6-12 hours. (Overnight is fine). On a wooden cutting board take crane meat and lay it out. Season the meat on board with salt, pepper, cilantro and parsley. (Salt to taste!!!) Next, throw away crane meat and eat the cutting board. It is more tasty and more tender. Mike,
I have hunted sandhill crane and have a great recipe for them. Let me share. Clean crane. Soak the meat in saltwater for about 12 hours. Drain it, then soak it in orange juice and tomato juice for another 6-12 hours. (Overnight is fine). On a wooden cutting board take crane meat and lay it out. Season the meat on board with salt, pepper, cilantro and parsley. (Salt to taste!!!) Next, throw away crane meat and eat the cutting board. It is more tasty and more tender.

]]> By: Elder Eli http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32832 Elder Eli Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:59:30 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32832 The best part of Rev. 12---The accuser no longer has an audience with God. Our preacher Butch Rogers preached on "Singing Angels" last Sunday and used Rev. 12. The best part of Rev. 12—The accuser no longer has an audience with God. Our preacher Butch Rogers preached on “Singing Angels” last
Sunday and used Rev. 12.

]]> By: Juli Lane http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32815 Juli Lane Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:46:12 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32815 Even harder to identify and help are the single parents who are married...to the mentally ill, disengaged, or unlovely. I hope the trend of small groups and increased intimacy within the family of God takes us into radical proclamation of needs matched by sacrificial mercies and tenderness to all. Even harder to identify and help are the single parents who are married…to the mentally ill, disengaged, or unlovely. I hope the trend of small groups and increased intimacy within the family of
God takes us into radical proclamation of needs matched by sacrificial mercies and tenderness to all.

]]> By: Sarah http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32808 Sarah Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:33:43 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32808 You are so right about single parents!! My husband travels for his work just enough for me to marvel at single parents and/or deployed spouses. It is an unbelievable undertaking! I, like Kathy, have heard many single parents comment that they don't "fit in" at church -- and that grieves my heart. Thank you for asking what can be done -- and reminding us all to look to see what can be done. Sandhill crane fajitas? hmmmm... I'm about to have a freezer FULL of venison, and that's about as "wild game" as I want to get! You are so right about single parents!! My husband travels for his work just enough for me to marvel at single parents and/or deployed spouses. It is an unbelievable undertaking! I, like Kathy, have heard many single parents comment that they don’t “fit in” at church — and that grieves my heart. Thank you for asking what can be done — and reminding us all to look to see what can be done.

Sandhill crane fajitas? hmmmm… I’m about to have a freezer FULL of venison, and that’s about as “wild game” as I want to get!

]]> By: Andrew Battistelli http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32797 Andrew Battistelli Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:11:41 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32797 Jeff, Growing up in Louisiana & having lots of connections with WFR I know of Phil and have heard him speak and met him. He's awesome! His beard scares the crap out of me though! Jeff,

Growing up in Louisiana & having lots of connections with WFR I know of Phil and have heard him speak and met him. He’s awesome!

His beard scares the crap out of me though!

]]> By: Chris http://preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32785 Chris Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:51:10 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/12/14/1032#comment-32785 Some people have a fundamental problem with liberals, both religious and political. Some people have a fundamental problem with liberals, both religious and political.

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