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		<title>By: carolyn dycus</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-20263</link>
		<dc:creator>carolyn dycus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kelly--Peet's is a great place for coffee. And, they offer the frappacino's (sp?)or frozen drinks for $1.99 on Fridays AND buy one get one free specials to students during certain study hours. I like the camaraderie among the coffee drinkers and the Sharky's Burrito fans at the United on Judge Ely. Everyone needs to give Peet's a try! (They also use "free market" coffee.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kelly&#8211;Peet&#8217;s is a great place for coffee. And, they offer the frappacino&#8217;s (sp?)or frozen drinks for $1.99 on Fridays AND buy one get one free specials to students during certain study hours. I like the camaraderie among the coffee drinkers and the Sharky&#8217;s Burrito fans at the United on Judge Ely. Everyone needs to give Peet&#8217;s a try! (They also use &#8220;free market&#8221; coffee.)</p>
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		<title>By: TCS</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19774</link>
		<dc:creator>TCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, I didn't read all the comments, but one of my sisters has Starbucks as a client.  they are currently opening a store every 24 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, I didn&#8217;t read all the comments, but one of my sisters has Starbucks as a client.  they are currently opening a store every 24 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene Kasselman</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19770</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene Kasselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Around here it is almost impossible to find a seat in a Starbucks that is not occupied by a Christian.  I cracked up the other day as I saw two guys planning worship on their laptops, one reading Velvet Elvis, one reading McLaren, another reading Foster, plus a group of Students who who proudly wearing youth group t-shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around here it is almost impossible to find a seat in a Starbucks that is not occupied by a Christian.  I cracked up the other day as I saw two guys planning worship on their laptops, one reading Velvet Elvis, one reading McLaren, another reading Foster, plus a group of Students who who proudly wearing youth group t-shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19700</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eckstein-World Series MVP. What were the odds of that happening on a team with the likes of Pujols, Edmonds, and Rolen?  He embodies what baseball is all about. Congratulations Cards. Mocha...lots of mocha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eckstein-World Series MVP. What were the odds of that happening on a team with the likes of Pujols, Edmonds, and Rolen?  He embodies what baseball is all about. Congratulations Cards. Mocha&#8230;lots of mocha.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19649</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Championship once again lies in the hands of the franchise with the second most titles...

The St. Louis Cardinals!  The 2006 World Series Champions!

There truly isn't a group of fans as loyal and supportive as the St. Louis Cardinal fans!!

--A St. Louis Native and Cardinals Fan, ALSO transplanted in Texas--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Championship once again lies in the hands of the franchise with the second most titles&#8230;</p>
<p>The St. Louis Cardinals!  The 2006 World Series Champions!</p>
<p>There truly isn&#8217;t a group of fans as loyal and supportive as the St. Louis Cardinal fans!!</p>
<p>&#8211;A St. Louis Native and Cardinals Fan, ALSO transplanted in Texas&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Stevens</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19642</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Lord gives us some mountain top experiences at times to be a foretaste of what a true celebration and party we have to look forward to someday.  ST. LOUIS is celebrating tonight; but, it is all so transitory.  I am thankful for the celebration that we all have to look forward to together!  With that said, 2006 goes down as a year to remember.

Bradford L. Stevens
St. Louis, MO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Lord gives us some mountain top experiences at times to be a foretaste of what a true celebration and party we have to look forward to someday.  ST. LOUIS is celebrating tonight; but, it is all so transitory.  I am thankful for the celebration that we all have to look forward to together!  With that said, 2006 goes down as a year to remember.</p>
<p>Bradford L. Stevens<br />
St. Louis, MO</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19641</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoo hoo!!!  Go CARDS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoo hoo!!!  Go CARDS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19635</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well!  They did it, Mike, they did it!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well!  They did it, Mike, they did it!</p>
<p>CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Stevens</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19608</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all of you coffee bibbers, the game is about to start in St. Louis this evening.  It has rained all day; but, they are drying out the field as best they can to get this game in.  The groundskeepers are happy that there is no standing water!  If the Cardinals clinch, they won't be drinking coffee after this game!  Mike, I feel that spiritual connection with you!  GO CARDINALS!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of you coffee bibbers, the game is about to start in St. Louis this evening.  It has rained all day; but, they are drying out the field as best they can to get this game in.  The groundskeepers are happy that there is no standing water!  If the Cardinals clinch, they won&#8217;t be drinking coffee after this game!  Mike, I feel that spiritual connection with you!  GO CARDINALS!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lewis</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19600</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that there are three times as many tanning salons in Washington state than there are Starbucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that there are three times as many tanning salons in Washington state than there are Starbucks?</p>
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		<title>By: qb</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19576</link>
		<dc:creator>qb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug wrote:
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Whats wrong with a utilitarian, pragmatic marketing scheme? Isn’t that a “scheme” that involves defining practical planning steps, learned from a historical study of cause and effect relationships, to market a product or service that provides the greatest good for the most people?
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Yep.  And Philip Kenneson has written a masterly critique that argues that there is, in fact, a LOT wrong with a "utilitarian, pragmatic marketing scheme," and what's wrong with it are the fundamental assumptions that such a scheme requires that we make about the Kingdom.  I dare not try to speak wide-rangingly on Kenneson's behalf, but suffice to say that when I read him, I was thinking throughout, "yeah, you know, that's really true when you stop to think about it."  In our desire to market our ideas effectively - whatever "effectively" means, we beg the question - to a media-saturated America, we make subtle, tacit agreements with our culture about who we are and how we must be perceived by that culture in order to be given a "fair hearing."  (We assume, moreover, that we deserve a fair hearing!)  And those agreements, Kenneson argues forcefully, are often antithetical to the essential nature of the Kingdom.  It's worth listening to Kenneson, if only to question your own ecclesiological headwaters.

qb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug wrote:<br />
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Whats wrong with a utilitarian, pragmatic marketing scheme? Isn’t that a “scheme” that involves defining practical planning steps, learned from a historical study of cause and effect relationships, to market a product or service that provides the greatest good for the most people?<br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Yep.  And Philip Kenneson has written a masterly critique that argues that there is, in fact, a LOT wrong with a &#8220;utilitarian, pragmatic marketing scheme,&#8221; and what&#8217;s wrong with it are the fundamental assumptions that such a scheme requires that we make about the Kingdom.  I dare not try to speak wide-rangingly on Kenneson&#8217;s behalf, but suffice to say that when I read him, I was thinking throughout, &#8220;yeah, you know, that&#8217;s really true when you stop to think about it.&#8221;  In our desire to market our ideas effectively - whatever &#8220;effectively&#8221; means, we beg the question - to a media-saturated America, we make subtle, tacit agreements with our culture about who we are and how we must be perceived by that culture in order to be given a &#8220;fair hearing.&#8221;  (We assume, moreover, that we deserve a fair hearing!)  And those agreements, Kenneson argues forcefully, are often antithetical to the essential nature of the Kingdom.  It&#8217;s worth listening to Kenneson, if only to question your own ecclesiological headwaters.</p>
<p>qb</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19571</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well!  Y'all can word battle about coffee and Game 5 of the WS, while we fans of the San Diego Padres are in deep mourning, suffering an almost mortal wound.

Our 12-year skipper, Bruce Bouchy has turned coat and gone off to the insufferable San Franciso Giants.  This means that next year not only will we again have to put up with Barry Bonds, but with Bouch coaching Bonds, of all people, turning him around into a decent human being.  Grrrrr!  [  ;)   ]

So, revel in your coffee and your WS, we'll just sit here and mourn.  [wiping tears from cheeks]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well!  Y&#8217;all can word battle about coffee and Game 5 of the WS, while we fans of the San Diego Padres are in deep mourning, suffering an almost mortal wound.</p>
<p>Our 12-year skipper, Bruce Bouchy has turned coat and gone off to the insufferable San Franciso Giants.  This means that next year not only will we again have to put up with Barry Bonds, but with Bouch coaching Bonds, of all people, turning him around into a decent human being.  Grrrrr!  [  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   ]</p>
<p>So, revel in your coffee and your WS, we&#8217;ll just sit here and mourn.  [wiping tears from cheeks]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19567</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you know how we could open as many churches as Starbucks?  If everyone who reads this blog would commit to beginning a church in their homes and then multiplying that once, twice or more over the next few years, we could easily do it.  Worldwide, I'd say more churches are started each year than SB could only dream of.  But we'd have to be inventive, imaginative and trusting to move beyond our current idea of church...much like SB did to move beyond the world's idea of a coffee shop.  Let's do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you know how we could open as many churches as Starbucks?  If everyone who reads this blog would commit to beginning a church in their homes and then multiplying that once, twice or more over the next few years, we could easily do it.  Worldwide, I&#8217;d say more churches are started each year than SB could only dream of.  But we&#8217;d have to be inventive, imaginative and trusting to move beyond our current idea of church&#8230;much like SB did to move beyond the world&#8217;s idea of a coffee shop.  Let&#8217;s do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Brown</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19566</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn't it be great to see a church planted, a missionary supported, or a new ministry started for every Starbucks.  I would love that!  A new mall opened here a year ago and it has 4 different Starbucks in it alone.  That is crazy!  As for coffee, I can't stand it!  It smells so good, and then (in my opinion) tastes like licking the ground.  I just can't do it.  I will recommend a drink.  It's called a Vanilla Steamer.  Steamed milk with vanilla and whipped cream.  An excellent choice for non coffee people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be great to see a church planted, a missionary supported, or a new ministry started for every Starbucks.  I would love that!  A new mall opened here a year ago and it has 4 different Starbucks in it alone.  That is crazy!  As for coffee, I can&#8217;t stand it!  It smells so good, and then (in my opinion) tastes like licking the ground.  I just can&#8217;t do it.  I will recommend a drink.  It&#8217;s called a Vanilla Steamer.  Steamed milk with vanilla and whipped cream.  An excellent choice for non coffee people.</p>
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		<title>By: clint</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/10/27/game-5-starbucks#comment-19563</link>
		<dc:creator>clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess it would be ok to be called a coffee bibber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess it would be ok to be called a coffee bibber.</p>
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