Comments on: Another 50th http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2 Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:10:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ty Frost http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13406 Ty Frost Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:42:23 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13406 Leland and others, I agree about Israel. I'd want to get the bad guys too, but Israel has always claimed to have the best teams of assasins in the world, why would they murder hundreds of innocents when they have no real assurance of getting the actual culprits; especially when their actions just give birth to more possible terrorists who wanted peace only a few weeks ago? Also, how do the Lebanese feel when their families are killed because some terror organization was too strong for their government to disarm and they got blamed for the actions of this group? Leland and others, I agree about Israel. I’d want to get the bad guys too, but Israel has always claimed to have the best teams of assasins in the world, why would they murder hundreds of innocents when they have no real assurance of getting the actual culprits; especially when their actions just give birth to more possible terrorists who wanted peace only a few weeks ago? Also, how do the Lebanese feel when their families are killed because some terror organization was too strong for their government to disarm and they got blamed for the actions of this group?

]]> By: SG http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13400 SG Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:56:17 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13400 Well you could add "Stephanie, Rob and their three kids" to your list of things in Waco! AND YES we are really ready to shed the David Karesh thing...it actually didn't happen IN Waco but 25 miles OUTSIDE of Waco in Mt Carmel .... but history is no respector of facts and so we deal with it. President Bush will also be here this weekend. (He's another person who keeps Waco in the national spotlight!) You just might even get a glimpse of ole "W"...he is a die hard little league fan! :) Well you could add “Stephanie, Rob and their three kids” to your list of things in Waco! AND YES we are really ready to shed the David Karesh thing…it actually didn’t happen IN Waco but 25 miles OUTSIDE of Waco in Mt Carmel …. but history is no respector of facts and so we deal with it. President Bush will also be here this weekend. (He’s another person who keeps Waco in the national spotlight!) You just might even get a glimpse of ole “W”…he is a die hard little league fan! :)

]]> By: Terry http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13394 Terry Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:40:37 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13394 I think how many times in the last 30 years the call for peace gets touted about in the mid-east. Every time the terrorists are getting routed out, they wave the white flag and then just come back stronger at a later date. Sorta like the boy who called wolf. I do not blame the Jews at all for what is happening now. I remember shells of buses with entire families blown to smitherens and nothing was done over and over. Wedding parties in hotels being blown up. Terrorists must be dealt with or they high five each other and look for something else horrible to do. I think how many times in the last 30 years the call for peace gets touted about in the mid-east. Every time the terrorists are getting routed out, they wave the white flag and then just come back stronger at a later date. Sorta like the boy who called wolf. I do not blame the Jews at all for what is happening now. I remember shells of buses with entire families blown to smitherens and nothing was done over and over. Wedding parties in hotels being blown up. Terrorists must be dealt with or they high five each other and look for something else horrible to do.

]]> By: Leland http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13372 Leland Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:04:57 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13372 Most Israeli's I know (worked for a company based south of Tel Aviv) could give a shit about sacred space! They care about the bus not blowing up with their children in it! Abilene, Portland or any other pace in the US have not had this as their day to day reality. We had it one day in September and look how we reacted. So everyone shouldn't pretend to know what it's like and how one should react to terror in one's front yard. If Hamas or Hezbollah killed my family (Lori, Bo, Jared, Lexa, Elise) on a bus or with a rocket, I would want them stopped before they killed my friend's family. Prayers to God are being said on behalf of this region, either He\She is not listening, doesn't care or can't do anything. So forgive the Jew who loves his family enough to defend it while we pray over here and give advice. Shalom. Most Israeli’s I know (worked for a company based south of Tel Aviv) could give a shit about sacred space! They care about the bus not blowing up with their children in it!

Abilene, Portland or any other pace in the US have not had this as their day to day reality. We had it one day in September and look how we reacted. So everyone shouldn’t pretend to know what it’s like and how one should react to terror in one’s front yard.

If Hamas or Hezbollah killed my family (Lori, Bo, Jared, Lexa, Elise) on a bus or with a rocket, I would want them stopped before they killed my friend’s family.

Prayers to God are being said on behalf of this region, either He\She is not listening, doesn’t care or can’t do anything.

So forgive the Jew who loves his family enough to defend it while we pray over here and give advice.

Shalom.

]]> By: clint http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13371 clint Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:52:52 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13371 there they are again there they are again

]]> By: clint http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13370 clint Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:52:22 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13370 me too me too

]]> By: David Dallas http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13369 David Dallas Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:56:29 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13369 Mike, Please take care of the problem that the "care to comment" comes up after every entry in the comments with my name and address. thank you! Mike,

Please take care of the problem that the “care to comment” comes up after every entry in the comments with my name and address.

thank you!

]]> By: Joe Hatcher http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13368 Joe Hatcher Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:36:37 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13368 Just a tidbit of information here, for any one who might be interested. I happened to have known David Koresh (aka Vernon Sanders). At one time in my life, I made a very good living buying and selling firearms, especially 'para military assault rifles and handguns'. Koresh appeared to me at the time to be a rather fanatical collector of these types of weapons as well as the ammo and magazines that fit these rifles. At this time in my life, I was really searching and I believe God was challenging and chasing. Thankfully, some radical Christian believers invited me to a bible study on Green Valley Rd here in Abilene, TX and became friends with a group of younger teachers and students from Abilene Christian University. I thought Vernon Sanders was Jewish and always needed a bath and some good deodorant. Show you what I knew at the time. This information plus hours more of details was given the many agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. My business dealings were completely above approach and legal in every way, just in case you may wonder. Just a tidbit of information here, for any one who might be interested. I happened to have known David Koresh (aka Vernon Sanders). At one time in my life, I made a very good living buying and selling firearms, especially ‘para military assault rifles and handguns’. Koresh appeared to me at the time to be a rather fanatical collector of these types of weapons as well as the ammo and magazines that fit these rifles. At this time in my life, I was really searching and I believe God was challenging and chasing. Thankfully, some radical Christian believers invited me to a bible study on Green Valley Rd here in Abilene, TX and became friends with a group of younger teachers and students from Abilene Christian University.

I thought Vernon Sanders was Jewish and always needed a bath and some good deodorant. Show you what I knew at the time.

This information plus hours more of details was given the many agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. My business dealings were completely above approach and legal in every way, just in case you may wonder.

]]> By: Steve Holt Sr. http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13367 Steve Holt Sr. Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:24:37 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13367 Dickie Porche is one of my heroes. Oh, that there were more men like him! Happy Birthday, Dickie. smhsr Dickie Porche is one of my heroes. Oh, that there were more men like him! Happy Birthday, Dickie.

smhsr

]]> By: Ty Frost http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13366 Ty Frost Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:05:52 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13366 There are thousands of Lebanese exiles. They watch all of this in horror and try to clip the wings of hatred before more violence can fly. These are the people the world needs to understand, if they are to learn to love Lebanon and to strive to help her. This is not about Israel or Hezbollah, this is about Lebanon and her children, who cry for her. A few examples of their posts showing their love: <a href="http://welcometomydream.blogspot.com/2006/07/this-too-shall-pass_16.html" rel="nofollow"> This too shall pass</a> by Fouad Boulos, a Marionite expatriate doctor, working on his residency in Nashville, a <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6926/2177/1600/JM.jpg" rel="nofollow">picture</a> of one of the most beautiful places in Lebanon, taken by Laila who was hiking with fellow bloggers who were blessed enough to be able to visit Lebanon together, and <a href="http://perpetualrefugee.blogspot.com/2006/07/grown-men-do-cry.html#links" rel="nofollow">a recounting of today's pain and unity</a>, by The Perpetual Refugee, who was forced to leave his home long ago, but who's heart is always there. There are thousands of Lebanese exiles. They watch all of this in horror and try to clip the wings of hatred before more violence can fly. These are the people the world needs to understand, if they are to learn to love Lebanon and to strive to help her. This is not about Israel or Hezbollah, this is about Lebanon and her children, who cry for her.

A few examples of their posts showing their love: This too shall pass by Fouad Boulos, a Marionite expatriate doctor, working on his residency in Nashville, a picture of one of the most beautiful places in Lebanon, taken by Laila who was hiking with fellow bloggers who were blessed enough to be able to visit Lebanon together, and a recounting of today’s pain and unity, by The Perpetual Refugee, who was forced to leave his home long ago, but who’s heart is always there.

]]> By: clint http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13365 clint Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:28:42 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13365 I have learned it is easy to sit and talk but not so easy to stand and do. We all need to call Dickie and leave a happy birthday on his recorder. After all he does it to every member every year. Happy birthday Dickie I wish I had read mikes blog before I saw you at lunch. I have learned it is easy to sit and talk but not so easy to stand and do.

We all need to call Dickie and leave a happy birthday on his recorder. After all he does it to every member every year. Happy birthday Dickie I wish I had read mikes blog before I saw you at lunch.

]]> By: Jody http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13364 Jody Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:37:28 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13364 Happy Birthday, Dickie, from those of us still able to cling to our 30s. You are a blessing. Happy Birthday, Dickie, from those of us still able to cling to our 30s.
You are a blessing.

]]> By: Brett Keller http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13361 Brett Keller Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:00:14 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13361 One of the scariest things about some forms of Christian belief to me is the idea that some Christians would be not only not hating war and the horrors that it brings, but almost actively desiring some conflict because they see it as hastening Christ's return. The Left Behind video game is an extreme example, but it may not be that much different from a lot of mainstream Christians' views. Instead of working to promote peace through service (as the ethic of Jesus seems to entail), it seems that many Christians view a worldwide war of destruction as a preface to the second coming, and therefore desirable. At best, many non-premillenial Christians dismiss war as an inevitability and by consequence may not be as upset by war, as likely to desire its end, or as likely to vote against when given the option... And Mark's right. The Holocaust looms large in the collective memory of Europe, the USA, and Israel. And having been a country for 60 years, it's hard any longer to imagine a Middle East with Israel removed, so any solution seems to involve coexistence. Having just watched Spielberg's Munich last night, I'm reminded that fanatics are fanatics, and zealots are zealots. If one blindly believes that one's side must win because God is on their side, or because one's one nation must be supreme above the others (which describes both the religious and nationalist fervor of many Jews, Muslims, Christians, Israelis, Palestinians, and Americans) the end will always justify the means. That is extremely frightening to me, and I celebrate the passivity brought to many parts of Israel and its neighbors through economic gain. One of the scariest things about some forms of Christian belief to me is the idea that some Christians would be not only not hating war and the horrors that it brings, but almost actively desiring some conflict because they see it as hastening Christ’s return. The Left Behind video game is an extreme example, but it may not be that much different from a lot of mainstream Christians’ views. Instead of working to promote peace through service (as the ethic of Jesus seems to entail), it seems that many Christians view a worldwide war of destruction as a preface to the second coming, and therefore desirable. At best, many non-premillenial Christians dismiss war as an inevitability and by consequence may not be as upset by war, as likely to desire its end, or as likely to vote against when given the option…

And Mark’s right. The Holocaust looms large in the collective memory of Europe, the USA, and Israel. And having been a country for 60 years, it’s hard any longer to imagine a Middle East with Israel removed, so any solution seems to involve coexistence. Having just watched Spielberg’s Munich last night, I’m reminded that fanatics are fanatics, and zealots are zealots. If one blindly believes that one’s side must win because God is on their side, or because one’s one nation must be supreme above the others (which describes both the religious and nationalist fervor of many Jews, Muslims, Christians, Israelis, Palestinians, and Americans) the end will always justify the means. That is extremely frightening to me, and I celebrate the passivity brought to many parts of Israel and its neighbors through economic gain.

]]> By: luther http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13360 luther Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:28:28 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13360 grace and peace to all in the name of Jesus. just wondering what everyone thinks...are we so sure that this war is inevitable? what about the prophecies in the holy Scriptures regarding the return of Jesus? do these events have anything to do with Him coming back? thanks and may the LORD bless us all. grace and peace to all in the name of Jesus.
just wondering what everyone thinks…are we so sure that this war is inevitable? what about the prophecies in the holy Scriptures regarding the return of Jesus? do these events have anything to do with Him coming back? thanks and may the LORD bless us all.

]]> By: J.Pierpont http://preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13359 J.Pierpont Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:03:31 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/07/20/another-50th-2#comment-13359 I agree wholehearted with Steve... David Lipscomb said, “When we say that God cares for us, protects us and leads us in the ways of safety and peace, and yet rely on human governments, human arms, death dealing human weapons for protection, our conduct seems to contradict our confession.” What can the Lord do through us to bring peace to his creation? I agree wholehearted with Steve…

David Lipscomb said, “When we say that God cares for us, protects us and leads us in the ways of safety and peace, and yet rely on human governments, human arms, death dealing human weapons for protection, our conduct seems to contradict our confession.”

What can the Lord do through us to bring peace to his creation?

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