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]]> By: jeff http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12946 jeff Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:40:04 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12946 Mike, I do agree that we need "worship renewal", but not in the way you are suggesting. We must worship in spirit and in TRUTH! There are many examples in the Old Testament when people who claim to be christians fail to do as God comands, and the outcome was not pleasant. I do not want to be counted in that number. The Bible warns us that there will be false teachers who will secretly introduce strange heresies, even to the point of denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. It also states that many will follow. 2 Peter chapter 2. There seems to many who do follow this movement to stray away from the teaching of our Lord, and that saddens me. It is my prayer that people like yourself will seek the old paths. Jeremiah 6"16 states, " Thus says the Lord, Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, and you will find rest for your souls." The people refused, and disaster took place. The right path for living is ancient and has been marked out by God. We face the same decision today, going Gods way, or following a new path of our own choosing. Dont be misled. The only way to find peace and rest is to walk on Gods path. If we stick to the teachings of God and do as it says, the Church will grow, but in the right way. Stick to God's path. Mike,
I do agree that we need “worship renewal”, but not in the way you are suggesting. We must worship in spirit and in TRUTH! There are many examples in the Old Testament when people who claim to be christians fail to do as God comands, and the outcome was not pleasant. I do not want to be counted in that number. The Bible warns us that there will be false teachers who will secretly introduce strange heresies, even to the point of denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. It also states that many will follow. 2 Peter chapter 2. There seems to many who do follow this movement to stray away from the teaching of our Lord, and that saddens me. It is my prayer that people like yourself will seek the old paths. Jeremiah 6″16 states, ” Thus says the Lord, Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, and you will find rest for your souls.” The people refused, and disaster took place. The right path for living is ancient and has been marked out by God. We face the same decision today, going Gods way, or following a new path of our own choosing. Dont be misled. The only way to find peace and rest is to walk on Gods path. If we stick to the teachings of God and do as it says, the Church will grow, but in the right way. Stick to God’s path.

]]> By: jeff http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12947 jeff Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:40:04 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12947 Mike, I do agree that we need "worship renewal", but not in the way you are suggesting. We must worship in spirit and in TRUTH! There are many examples in the Old Testament when people who claim to be christians fail to do as God comands, and the outcome was not pleasant. I do not want to be counted in that number. The Bible warns us that there will be false teachers who will secretly introduce strange heresies, even to the point of denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. It also states that many will follow. 2 Peter chapter 2. There seems to many who do follow this movement to stray away from the teaching of our Lord, and that saddens me. It is my prayer that people like yourself will seek the old paths. Jeremiah 6"16 states, " Thus says the Lord, Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, and you will find rest for your souls." The people refused, and disaster took place. The right path for living is ancient and has been marked out by God. We face the same decision today, going Gods way, or following a new path of our own choosing. Dont be misled. The only way to find peace and rest is to walk on Gods path. If we stick to the teachings of God and do as it says, the Church will grow, but in the right way. Stick to God's path. Mike,
I do agree that we need “worship renewal”, but not in the way you are suggesting. We must worship in spirit and in TRUTH! There are many examples in the Old Testament when people who claim to be christians fail to do as God comands, and the outcome was not pleasant. I do not want to be counted in that number. The Bible warns us that there will be false teachers who will secretly introduce strange heresies, even to the point of denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. It also states that many will follow. 2 Peter chapter 2. There seems to many who do follow this movement to stray away from the teaching of our Lord, and that saddens me. It is my prayer that people like yourself will seek the old paths. Jeremiah 6″16 states, ” Thus says the Lord, Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, and you will find rest for your souls.” The people refused, and disaster took place. The right path for living is ancient and has been marked out by God. We face the same decision today, going Gods way, or following a new path of our own choosing. Dont be misled. The only way to find peace and rest is to walk on Gods path. If we stick to the teachings of God and do as it says, the Church will grow, but in the right way. Stick to God’s path.

]]> By: Scott http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12931 Scott Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:57:23 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12931 Mike, Please, take your "I love my brother more than God" garbage and everyone that follows the will of man first and maybe God next and GO "JOIN" YOU LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD christian CHURCH 'cause I want MY GOD'S Church BACK!!!! This movement that has been dreamed up and implemented by the likes of Rick Warren, Lucado, Shelly and the like has nothing to do with THE Church at all. If we SUCK so BAD, go join them! LEAVE US ALONE. We are commanded to flee from spewers of false doctrine so we do. This is a free country still and your DREAMS of religious genocide are not only damning, but illegal. Please, for the sake of my family, GO AWAY! Mike,

Please, take your “I love my brother more than God” garbage and everyone that follows the will of man first and maybe God next and GO “JOIN” YOU LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD christian CHURCH ’cause I want MY GOD’S Church BACK!!!! This movement that has been dreamed up and implemented by the likes of Rick Warren, Lucado, Shelly and the like has nothing to do with THE Church at all. If we SUCK so BAD, go join them! LEAVE US ALONE. We are commanded to flee from spewers of false doctrine so we do. This is a free country still and your DREAMS of religious genocide are not only damning, but illegal. Please, for the sake of my family, GO AWAY!

]]> By: Richard http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12548 Richard Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:47:51 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12548 God Bless, I will not call you an idiot for your poor grammar, but if you are going to offer a challange like you did proof reading is a very good idea. We would all do well to remind ourselves that many of us a long time ago were right where he is today. I remember when I actually made a clandestine visit to a "liberal" church to hear a well known "liberal." That night changed my life. God Bless, keep studying and keep and open mind, and develop a thick skin. God's grace is wonderful. I live in it ever day. God Bless,

I will not call you an idiot for your poor grammar, but if you are going to offer a challange like you did proof reading is a very good idea. We would all do well to remind ourselves that many of us a long time ago were right where he is today. I remember when I actually made a clandestine visit to a “liberal” church to hear a well known “liberal.” That night changed my life. God Bless, keep studying and keep and open mind, and develop a thick skin. God’s grace is wonderful. I live in it ever day.

]]> By: Bill http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12464 Bill Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:21:51 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12464 I'm thinking that one of the sisters needs to just stand up and start speaking..."I have a dream..." Institutionalized discrimination does not die. When it is exposed it scurries away into the shadows from whence it awaits an opportune time to reemerge. Before we are free from the bonds of the past, we must eradicate the vestiges of discrimination in the present. There is no “bug bomb” sufficient for the task. Broken and contrite spirits, combined with a willingness to bring forth the fruit of repentance is the need of the hour. May God’s Spirit work deep within the hearts and minds of men helping us become more of what God wants us to be. I’m thinking that one of the sisters needs to just stand up and start speaking…”I have a dream…”

Institutionalized discrimination does not die. When it is exposed it scurries away into the shadows from whence it awaits an opportune time to reemerge. Before we are free from the bonds of the past, we must eradicate the vestiges of discrimination in the present. There is no “bug bomb” sufficient for the task. Broken and contrite spirits, combined with a willingness to bring forth the fruit of repentance is the need of the hour. May God’s Spirit work deep within the hearts and minds of men helping us become more of what God wants us to be.

]]> By: Kathy http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12461 Kathy Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:08:04 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12461 How well I know that these differences can bring deep pain to all involved. Some of us are more acquainted with the harm done by spiritiual slavery than others. It is difficult for some men in particular, to understand the grip of that slavery, to recognize that women, like men, have God-given gifts that God will call us to accountability about their use, as He will men and their gifts. Paul writes that in Jesus there are no racial differences to separate us, no economical nor political either, AND there are no gender differences in the LORD, we are all equal and co-heirs in Jesus. Yet most of my life, the men leading the spiritual body we call the Church have spent their time trying to separate us along all of the above lines. The last to go seems to be women's spiritual slavery in the church. Women are told to sit down and be quiet - to keep their ideas to themselves should they be bold enough to disagree with what the men are saying. How brutal it is to be told and taught that you have NO rights in the men's church, except those and only those the men deign to dole out. To be told, for instance, that your talents must be limited to teaching only children, that you may NOT have any part in adult teaching can be frustrating and is certainly demeaning. Yet, women continue to be the majority of faithful workers in our churches. Strange, to say the least. I suppose one might say that due to this spiritual slavery women have learned how to serve their LORD rather than the church. This lack of acceptance of women in the church can often been seen in physical activity. May I suggest we begin to notice, for instance, when a man and woman are talking in a church setting and a second man approaches them, rarely will he excuse himself for breaking into the conversation. He will just take the first man's arm, and turn him away, or he might even position himself between the woman and the person she was speaking to, cutting off her participation in a conversation, as he interjects his own. Guys, Jesus traveled with women as much as He did men. He appeared first to women after He arose, giving them the first preaching job about the risen Savior, of teaching the apostles [all men ya' know lol] about His resurrection. In short, Jesus didn't hold women in spiritiual slavery, He freed us! Praise You, LORD!! How well I know that these differences can bring deep pain to all involved. Some of us are more acquainted with the harm done by spiritiual slavery than others. It is difficult for some men in particular, to understand the grip of that slavery, to recognize that women, like men, have God-given gifts that God will call us to accountability about their use, as He will men and their gifts.

Paul writes that in Jesus there are no racial differences to separate us, no economical nor political either, AND there are no gender differences in the LORD, we are all equal and co-heirs in Jesus. Yet most of my life, the men leading the spiritual body we call the Church have spent their time trying to separate us along all of the above lines. The last to go seems to be women’s spiritual slavery in the church.

Women are told to sit down and be quiet - to keep their ideas to themselves should they be bold enough to disagree with what the men are saying. How brutal it is to be told and taught that you have NO rights in the men’s church, except those and only those the men deign to dole out. To be told, for instance, that your talents must be limited to teaching only children, that you may NOT have any part in adult teaching can be frustrating and is certainly demeaning.

Yet, women continue to be the majority of faithful workers in our churches. Strange, to say the least. I suppose one might say that due to this spiritual slavery women have learned how to serve their LORD rather than the church.

This lack of acceptance of women in the church can often been seen in physical activity. May I suggest we begin to notice, for instance, when a man and woman are talking in a church setting and a second man approaches them, rarely will he excuse himself for breaking into the conversation. He will just take the first man’s arm, and turn him away, or he might even position himself between the woman and the person she was speaking to, cutting off her participation in a conversation, as he interjects his own.

Guys, Jesus traveled with women as much as He did men. He appeared first to women after He arose, giving them the first preaching job about the risen Savior, of teaching the apostles [all men ya' know lol] about His resurrection.

In short, Jesus didn’t hold women in spiritiual slavery, He freed us! Praise You, LORD!!

]]> By: Mary http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12456 Mary Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:53:16 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12456 Kathy - Wow... my congregation is just now starting to make progress on "clapping". I don't think "rolling" will ever happen -- even with the men! :) [I, too, got a chuckle out of the "women's roll" comments... sometimes you have to laugh...] Mary Kathy -

Wow… my congregation is just now starting to make progress on “clapping”. I don’t think “rolling” will ever happen — even with the men! :)

[I, too, got a chuckle out of the "women's roll" comments... sometimes you have to laugh...]

Mary

]]> By: Joyce http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12455 Joyce Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:46:34 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12455 And I thought of rolls of tummy fat.... And I thought of rolls of tummy fat….

]]> By: Kathy http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12454 Kathy Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:26:47 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12454 Well. I don't know about all you guys, but I cannot stop lauging at the comments made by my good friend, Annie, and the Sister Schubert rolls. Maybe it's a "woman issue". However, when I first read the godbless comments, my initial reaction to the "women's rolls" was that I surely do hope they wear pants when they do that! Well. I don’t know about all you guys, but I cannot stop lauging at the comments made by my good friend, Annie, and the Sister Schubert rolls. Maybe it’s a “woman issue”.

However, when I first read the godbless comments, my initial reaction to the “women’s rolls” was that I surely do hope they wear pants when they do that!

]]> By: Brad Giddens http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12444 Brad Giddens Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:39:16 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12444 You too, Dude. You too, Dude.

]]> By: Brad Giddens http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12443 Brad Giddens Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:37:33 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12443 Easy there C. and God Bless. Easy there C. and God Bless.

]]> By: C. http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12435 C. Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:45:48 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12435 I think I'm very confused about this whole "judging" thing. My understanding is that we are supposed to leave entry to heaven up to God. That we should never try to interpret a person's heart or motives in a manner of assuming whether that person will be entering the pearly gates or not. Yet, many times when someone is disagreed with, or even called an idiot, they pull out the "who made you judge" card. That has never appeared to be "judging" to me. Any other thoughts? I think I’m very confused about this whole “judging” thing. My understanding is that we are supposed to leave entry to heaven up to God. That we should never try to interpret a person’s heart or motives in a manner of assuming whether that person will be entering the pearly gates or not.

Yet, many times when someone is disagreed with, or even called an idiot, they pull out the “who made you judge” card. That has never appeared to be “judging” to me. Any other thoughts?

]]> By: God Bless http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12427 God Bless Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:49:48 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12427 The Dude: How do you know I am turning believers away! You are a good assumer these days! I can not believe you would call anybody an idiot as a Christian! All we are having is good talk about the kingdom of God. We might have different beliefs, but we still believe in the same God! Good Job judging me buddy! I am glad God gave you the job of judging people and not spreading the gospel! I have just stated what is on my heart and you go off calling me an idiot and assuming everything! I guess you must be better then me! God Bless The Dude and his tongue! Amen The Dude:

How do you know I am turning believers away! You are a good assumer these days! I can not believe you would call anybody an idiot as a Christian! All we are having is good talk about the kingdom of God. We might have different beliefs, but we still believe in the same God! Good Job judging me buddy! I am glad God gave you the job of judging people and not spreading the gospel! I have just stated what is on my heart and you go off calling me an idiot and assuming everything! I guess you must be better then me! God Bless The Dude and his tongue! Amen

]]> By: Mike http://preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12415 Mike Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:12:10 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/06/12/signs-of-hope#comment-12415 Victor - You whacky ICC guys! Hope to see you in Louisville in a couple weeks. Victor - You whacky ICC guys! Hope to see you in Louisville in a couple weeks.

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