Comments on: The Most Profound Words at Pepperdine Lectureship http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Fri, 18 May 2012 14:25:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sandy http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-12949 Sandy Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:31:48 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-12949 I had the privilege of hearing Rachel and Klint speak at Pepperdine, it really was well worth the trip. I chose to go to their class because I lost my 28 year old daughter to cancer Feb. 1, 2006, just a short time before the lectureship. I keep searching for something that will help me catch a spark of meaning, wisdom...something to help understand the unbelievable suffering she endured and the vast emptiness that surrounds me sometimes, to be honest most times. I have prayed for wisdom continually since my daughter was diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer at 26. I think I have now begun my spiritual journey from ground zero, most things I believed and counted on I no longer believe, at least no in the same way. I do not understand God's plan, people tell me Elizabeth's death was His plan, I cannot believe this is true I know without a doubt that He doesn't answer our prayers as we would like Him to. Sometimes I wondered if perhaps I just had the magic words, enough faith, said it the right way......I no longer believe that either. The shred of wisdom, if it is that, that I have gleaned is He is God. Where else is there to go? His purposes are beyond my understanding. I choose to believe in His promises, that He loves me, even when I don't feel it. Someone asked Klint if he thought God had saved Rachel. He said he didn't know. If the answer was yes, then why not others? He echoes my constant question. As Joyce wrote, I too felt others knew something I didn't , had more faith than me. Now, for me faith is a decision, it's cake without the icing. It is what I have decided to do whether or not I can see the promises or understand the Promise Keeper. I miss my child. I hope to see you next year at Pepperdine. My hope is that I will be farther along my journer by then. Maybe even have gained some wisdom. My husband and I enjoyed our time in your classes, thank you. Sandy I had the privilege of hearing Rachel and Klint speak at Pepperdine, it really was well worth the trip. I chose to go to their class because I lost my 28 year old daughter to cancer Feb. 1, 2006, just a short time before the lectureship. I keep searching for something that will help me catch a spark of meaning, wisdom…something to help understand the unbelievable suffering she endured and the vast emptiness that surrounds me sometimes, to be honest most times. I have prayed for wisdom continually since my daughter was diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer at 26. I think I have now begun my spiritual journey from ground zero, most things I believed and counted on I no longer believe, at least no in the same way. I do not understand God’s plan, people tell me Elizabeth’s death was His plan, I cannot believe this is true I know without a doubt that He doesn’t answer our prayers as we would like Him to. Sometimes I wondered if perhaps I just had the magic words, enough faith, said it the right way……I no longer believe that either. The shred of wisdom, if it is that, that I have gleaned is He is God. Where else is there to go? His purposes are beyond my understanding. I choose to believe in His promises, that He loves me, even when I don’t feel it.
Someone asked Klint if he thought God had saved Rachel. He said he didn’t know. If the answer was yes, then why not others? He echoes my constant question.
As Joyce wrote, I too felt others knew something I didn’t , had more faith than me. Now, for me faith is a decision, it’s cake without the icing. It is what I have decided to do whether or not I can see the promises or understand the Promise Keeper.
I miss my child.
I hope to see you next year at Pepperdine. My hope is that I will be farther along my journer by then. Maybe even have gained some wisdom.
My husband and I enjoyed our time in your classes, thank you.

Sandy

]]> By: Brad Stevens http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11138 Brad Stevens Mon, 08 May 2006 01:55:43 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11138 Dear Mike, Thanks for your kind words and support to Klint and Rachel during their walk through the valley of the shadow of death over these past months. I posted a picture for your readers at: http://morenoble.blogspot.com/ so they could see the campus view at Pepperdine. I thought your class was superb! Brad Stevens (Rachel Pleasant's father) Dear Mike,

Thanks for your kind words and support to Klint and Rachel during their walk through the valley of the shadow of death over these past months. I posted a picture for your readers at: http://morenoble.blogspot.com/
so they could see the campus view at Pepperdine. I thought your class was superb!

Brad Stevens (Rachel Pleasant’s father)

]]> By: Joyce http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11134 Joyce Sun, 07 May 2006 00:50:27 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11134 Mike wrote: <i>One thing I’ve always loved about Klint’s faith: he doesn’t like carefully, packaged, one-size-fits-all answers. He’s nervous of people who always think they know exactly what God’s up to and who promise that if you pray things will happen just as you hoped.</i> Boy, me too. I used to feel like maybe they knew something I didn't know. Then I slowly began to realize that *I* knew something they didn't. But until I figured that out, I often felt judged like people like that. Sounds like an incredible talk. Thanks for pointing us to Klint's web site. Mike wrote:
One thing I’ve always loved about Klint’s faith: he doesn’t like carefully, packaged, one-size-fits-all answers. He’s nervous of people who always think they know exactly what God’s up to and who promise that if you pray things will happen just as you hoped.

Boy, me too. I used to feel like maybe they knew something I didn’t know. Then I slowly began to realize that *I* knew something they didn’t. But until I figured that out, I often felt judged like people like that.

Sounds like an incredible talk. Thanks for pointing us to Klint’s web site.

]]> By: candy http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11133 candy Sat, 06 May 2006 14:01:30 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11133 me too, clint. me too, clint.

]]> By: clintL http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11132 clintL Sat, 06 May 2006 01:01:09 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11132 the ocean and the mountains sounded nice but now you have made me jealous. the ocean and the mountains sounded nice but now you have made me jealous.

]]> By: Dee Andrews http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11131 Dee Andrews Fri, 05 May 2006 23:39:07 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11131 Thanks Mike for the post and the address to the Pleasant's blog. I can attest, having been brought low by numerous and an ever increasing number of physical problems the past 3 years, that those experiences and being confined to home for long periods of time to a solitary existence (and now this week, again, for it looks like a couple more months on top of the 5 already past) that my relationship with God and the depth of my faith have increased exponentially as a result in ways I could never have imagined or would have expected. You know. You've experienced some of life's worst blows in your life with your children. You know. All too well and have blessed us all as a result with your story of your journey. Wish I could have heard Klint and Rachel's testimony. I'm glad you did and shared it with us. Hope you are continuing to have a great lectureship. Any California guacamole yet? Thanks Mike for the post and the address to the Pleasant’s blog.

I can attest, having been brought low by numerous and an ever increasing number of physical problems the past 3 years, that those experiences and being confined to home for long periods of time to a solitary existence (and now this week, again, for it looks like a couple more months on top of the 5 already past) that my relationship with God and the depth of my faith have increased exponentially as a result in ways I could never have imagined or would have expected.

You know. You’ve experienced some of life’s worst blows in your life with your children. You know. All too well and have blessed us all as a result with your story of your journey.

Wish I could have heard Klint and Rachel’s testimony. I’m glad you did and shared it with us.

Hope you are continuing to have a great lectureship. Any California guacamole yet?

]]> By: Steve http://preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship/comment-page-1#comment-11127 Steve Fri, 05 May 2006 17:30:27 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/2006/05/05/the-most-profound-words-at-pepperdine-lectureship#comment-11127 What a powerful experience and powerful testimony the Pleasants have! The title for their class (When Your Wife Has 30 Minutes to Live) would certainly open the doors of the church family and the community to find out what they have to say. I remember what Jesus said to his disciples in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark%204:11-12;&version=51;" rel="nofollow"> Mark 4:11-12</a> The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’” Peace. What a powerful experience and powerful testimony the Pleasants have! The title for their class (When Your Wife Has 30 Minutes to Live) would certainly open the doors of the church family and the community to find out what they have to say.

I remember what Jesus said to his disciples in
Mark 4:11-12

The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’”

Peace.

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