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	<title>Comments on: Perception Vs. Reality</title>
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		<title>By: randy</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10911</link>
		<dc:creator>randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. I seem to have run in to this several times this year and no matter how much I wish that meant I had seen inaccurate perceptions in others, I must truthfully admit I have seen them in my perceptions about myself. (I might add that having our skewed perceptions clarified is not always ... fun.) I guess that is part of growth I only wish the growth stuck around a little longer sometimes. It seems like it takes constant vigilance to view ourselves and our intentions through a lens of reality and the commitment to truth. 

I am reminded of a little sermon Randy Harris gave last year in which he corrilated the church to Balam's donkey and reminded us that God has given us the church as well to help us clarify perception and reality. So it would seem that our God has provided the means for us to see reality if we would only choose to see, which admittedly seems to be part of my problem. 

I guess that is why we also walk with an older brother who knows what it is like to live here on earth. It is good to know we before the Father with an advocate who knows what it is like to live realistically in a world of perceptions. It is also good to know that that same advocate has given us a His Spirit to walk with us toward growth on our path to the Father and the Spirit's perception, if we are willing to hear, is always more accurate than our own.

The reality is we are not perfect, but our God is and He is rooting for us all the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I seem to have run in to this several times this year and no matter how much I wish that meant I had seen inaccurate perceptions in others, I must truthfully admit I have seen them in my perceptions about myself. (I might add that having our skewed perceptions clarified is not always &#8230; fun.) I guess that is part of growth I only wish the growth stuck around a little longer sometimes. It seems like it takes constant vigilance to view ourselves and our intentions through a lens of reality and the commitment to truth. </p>
<p>I am reminded of a little sermon Randy Harris gave last year in which he corrilated the church to Balam&#8217;s donkey and reminded us that God has given us the church as well to help us clarify perception and reality. So it would seem that our God has provided the means for us to see reality if we would only choose to see, which admittedly seems to be part of my problem. </p>
<p>I guess that is why we also walk with an older brother who knows what it is like to live here on earth. It is good to know we before the Father with an advocate who knows what it is like to live realistically in a world of perceptions. It is also good to know that that same advocate has given us a His Spirit to walk with us toward growth on our path to the Father and the Spirit&#8217;s perception, if we are willing to hear, is always more accurate than our own.</p>
<p>The reality is we are not perfect, but our God is and He is rooting for us all the way!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10910</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with you on all points–all family and friends welcome.  Dads, sons, and bronco riding preachers . . . please notice that I didn't say "maverick preachers."

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on all points–all family and friends welcome.  Dads, sons, and bronco riding preachers . . . please notice that I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;maverick preachers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10908</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic is one of my pet peeves.  The suggestion that "perception &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; reality" is so flawed, yet so common.  

Not only do many in the post-modern culture (outside of Christ) hold this view...there are also many in the post-modern culture (inside Christ) that do as well.

The challenge is we need our perceptions to help inform us of our surroundings, especially for things that could possibly bring us joy or harm.  But perception alone is not enough.

The best analogy I have for this is in my late twenties as my eyes began to fail.  

My perception was the lighting was bad, or that street signs were not crafted well.  My perception was that all trees had a green blob on top of the trunk.

The reality was in fact very different..I just could not see it until I received my prescription for my first pair of glasses.  It was only then that I saw reality for how it always was even though I could not yet perceive it.

A more accurate statement would be &lt;i&gt;"perception &lt;b&gt;may or may not be&lt;/b&gt; reality"&lt;/i&gt;

I am reminded of Paul's comments in 1 Cor. 13:12:

&lt;i&gt;Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.&lt;/i&gt; (NIV)

...and Job's reminder:

&lt;i&gt;For God does speak—now one way, now another— though man may not perceive it.&lt;/i&gt;  (Job 33:14, NIV)

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Are your self-perceptions accurate?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
No...I just pray the eyes of my heart and mind are opened as I am transformed into the image of the Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic is one of my pet peeves.  The suggestion that &#8220;perception <b>is</b> reality&#8221; is so flawed, yet so common.  </p>
<p>Not only do many in the post-modern culture (outside of Christ) hold this view&#8230;there are also many in the post-modern culture (inside Christ) that do as well.</p>
<p>The challenge is we need our perceptions to help inform us of our surroundings, especially for things that could possibly bring us joy or harm.  But perception alone is not enough.</p>
<p>The best analogy I have for this is in my late twenties as my eyes began to fail.  </p>
<p>My perception was the lighting was bad, or that street signs were not crafted well.  My perception was that all trees had a green blob on top of the trunk.</p>
<p>The reality was in fact very different..I just could not see it until I received my prescription for my first pair of glasses.  It was only then that I saw reality for how it always was even though I could not yet perceive it.</p>
<p>A more accurate statement would be <i>&#8220;perception <b>may or may not be</b> reality&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I am reminded of Paul&#8217;s comments in 1 Cor. 13:12:</p>
<p><i>Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.</i> (NIV)</p>
<p>&#8230;and Job&#8217;s reminder:</p>
<p><i>For God does speak—now one way, now another— though man may not perceive it.</i>  (Job 33:14, NIV)</p>
<p><i><b>Are your self-perceptions accurate?</b></i><br />
No&#8230;I just pray the eyes of my heart and mind are opened as I am transformed into the image of the Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10904</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you to get blame for my posts, Steve...

There's a Steve Sr. (who may or may not be my dad...) that posts sometimes too.

Estoy confundo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you to get blame for my posts, Steve&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Steve Sr. (who may or may not be my dad&#8230;) that posts sometimes too.</p>
<p>Estoy confundo!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10903</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jr.  I like your new user name.  I was contemplating today whether to alter mine to provide for less confusion and certainly to keep you from getting the blame for my posts.  

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jr.  I like your new user name.  I was contemplating today whether to alter mine to provide for less confusion and certainly to keep you from getting the blame for my posts.  </p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10902</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was once in a ministry where one of my deacons and elders said, "Our perception, Josh is reality. And our perception right now is that you're not doing as good of a job." Yes I quoted on purpose...that is exactly what they said...word for word. I know everyone has their own perceptions but man do I have a hard time listening to "perceptions."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once in a ministry where one of my deacons and elders said, &#8220;Our perception, Josh is reality. And our perception right now is that you&#8217;re not doing as good of a job.&#8221; Yes I quoted on purpose&#8230;that is exactly what they said&#8230;word for word. I know everyone has their own perceptions but man do I have a hard time listening to &#8220;perceptions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jr.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10901</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've come to realize that so much of the difference in the Christ-life is seeing what is real.  If we know our enemy distorts things on a daily (or hourly) basis, the job of the Christian person ought to be to ask God to reveal what is true.  Sometimes this truth hurts, sometimes it heals.  But we must not only seek out what is real and true, but call it out as what it is.

I like Randy Harris' definition of "spiritual direction": Listening to God on behalf of another person.  In other words, that is asking God to reveal what is real -- what &lt;i&gt;He&lt;/i&gt; is doing -- in a situation.

J.P., there probably is a bit of agenda peeking out through Rubel's insights.  But his "agenda" is well-received on my end because I know he is speaking about something with which he is extremely familiar.  Similar to a recovering alcoholic speaking strongly about the dangers of alcoholism.  The truth is, "conservative CoC" has also often epitomized sectarianism, while preaching "unity" out of the other side of its mouth -- that's hypocrisy.  We all do that, though, so don't hear me singling out one patch in the quilt.  We just need to hold the mirror in front of our own face from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to realize that so much of the difference in the Christ-life is seeing what is real.  If we know our enemy distorts things on a daily (or hourly) basis, the job of the Christian person ought to be to ask God to reveal what is true.  Sometimes this truth hurts, sometimes it heals.  But we must not only seek out what is real and true, but call it out as what it is.</p>
<p>I like Randy Harris&#8217; definition of &#8220;spiritual direction&#8221;: Listening to God on behalf of another person.  In other words, that is asking God to reveal what is real &#8212; what <i>He</i> is doing &#8212; in a situation.</p>
<p>J.P., there probably is a bit of agenda peeking out through Rubel&#8217;s insights.  But his &#8220;agenda&#8221; is well-received on my end because I know he is speaking about something with which he is extremely familiar.  Similar to a recovering alcoholic speaking strongly about the dangers of alcoholism.  The truth is, &#8220;conservative CoC&#8221; has also often epitomized sectarianism, while preaching &#8220;unity&#8221; out of the other side of its mouth &#8212; that&#8217;s hypocrisy.  We all do that, though, so don&#8217;t hear me singling out one patch in the quilt.  We just need to hold the mirror in front of our own face from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10900</link>
		<dc:creator>J.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Fact is religious hypocrisy, but pretense is denominational loyalty."

This troubles me, as "denominational loyalty" is increasingly being used as a code word for "conservative CoC."  Is there a bit of agenda peeking through Rubel's insights?  If I posted, "Fact is ignoring God's commands, but pretense is being progressive," how well would that go over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fact is religious hypocrisy, but pretense is denominational loyalty.&#8221;</p>
<p>This troubles me, as &#8220;denominational loyalty&#8221; is increasingly being used as a code word for &#8220;conservative CoC.&#8221;  Is there a bit of agenda peeking through Rubel&#8217;s insights?  If I posted, &#8220;Fact is ignoring God&#8217;s commands, but pretense is being progressive,&#8221; how well would that go over?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10899</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry for repeating, but you Comments field did not print out more than one sentence?)

We are facing a difference of perception versus reality…’ 
Perhaps rather than facing a difference of perception we are finally listening to and giving validity to the perception others have of our perception of reality?

‘As a Christian I should not have treated you like I just did. But I am also a human. Thank God for his grace!’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry for repeating, but you Comments field did not print out more than one sentence?)</p>
<p>We are facing a difference of perception versus reality…’<br />
Perhaps rather than facing a difference of perception we are finally listening to and giving validity to the perception others have of our perception of reality?</p>
<p>‘As a Christian I should not have treated you like I just did. But I am also a human. Thank God for his grace!’</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10898</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; We are facing a difference of perception versus reality… </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; We are facing a difference of perception versus reality…</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10897</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go with what Clint says, times 2!  :)

&#62; We are facing a difference of perception versus reality... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go with what Clint says, times 2!  <img src='http://preachermike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt; We are facing a difference of perception versus reality&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: my</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10896</link>
		<dc:creator>my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We are facing a difference of perception versus reality"  Perhaps we are also facing a difference in knowing what reality truly is; why do 48 million people (listed in the news today as the number of people who voted last night during American Idol) watch "reality television" when that is not even close to reality.  Maybe our view of perception versus reality has something to do also with what we view as reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are facing a difference of perception versus reality&#8221;  Perhaps we are also facing a difference in knowing what reality truly is; why do 48 million people (listed in the news today as the number of people who voted last night during American Idol) watch &#8220;reality television&#8221; when that is not even close to reality.  Maybe our view of perception versus reality has something to do also with what we view as reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Field</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10895</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Rubel's words of wisdom.  I often wonder if others look at me as I look at myself.  One of the best (although difficult) ways to find this out is to ask your best friends, wife, etc. to tell you some things that you do or are about that you don't realize.  This is initially painful and a shot to the pride but it also provides a truthful glance  at life from people you love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Rubel&#8217;s words of wisdom.  I often wonder if others look at me as I look at myself.  One of the best (although difficult) ways to find this out is to ask your best friends, wife, etc. to tell you some things that you do or are about that you don&#8217;t realize.  This is initially painful and a shot to the pride but it also provides a truthful glance  at life from people you love.</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10893</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, how can i help other people to understand that their perception is wrong? haha.  of course my percecption must be the ultimate reality, right?...since the world revolves around me?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, how can i help other people to understand that their perception is wrong? haha.  of course my percecption must be the ultimate reality, right?&#8230;since the world revolves around me?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: charlie s.</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2006/04/27/perception-vs-reality#comment-10892</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the easiest way for me to think of it is from a  speech given by a scoutmaster I had when I was 12 years old. His words have stuck with me ever since.
We see ourselves as e reflection in a mirror. We think we can change the angle or change the pose and it will change how we look. Others see us as a snapshot picture.  Good or bad, we cannot always pose how we want or change the angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the easiest way for me to think of it is from a  speech given by a scoutmaster I had when I was 12 years old. His words have stuck with me ever since.<br />
We see ourselves as e reflection in a mirror. We think we can change the angle or change the pose and it will change how we look. Others see us as a snapshot picture.  Good or bad, we cannot always pose how we want or change the angle.</p>
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