Soulforce at ACU

2006 March 27
by Mike

Soulforce, a group promoting rights and acceptance for gay and lesbian people, is on a 7-week bus tour, visiting what they deemed to be leading Christian universities.

Today the group is at ACU. I’m so proud of Abilene Christian for welcoming the group on campus, knowing that it’s important to discuss this issue and to always extend the love of Christ. Check out what the Soulforce organizers are saying about ACU. I understand that some of the ACU “constituency” is upset that they were allowed on campus. Which makes me even more proud of the administration for doing what’s right.

On their website, they list two issues of concern with ACU: that ACU considers homosexual behavior to be cause for disciplinary action and that ACU lists resources for help for those struggling with same-sex attraction.

What a great chance to talk, to understand, to challenge, and to build relationships.

(The next couple days I plan to continue the series on the B-I-B-L-E.)

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  1. 2006 March 27
    Alex permalink

    The dialogue I attended seemed primarily geared at persuading us not to carry out acts of hatred or violence against homosexuals, which is certainly a position I can agree with. However, there did seem to be an underlying implication that this goal could only be achieved by renouncing our belief in the sinfulness of homosexuality. Dr. Glenn Pemberton of the Bible department responded with an excellent statement condemning the anti-gay violence as inexcusable on the one hand, while pointing to the need to lovingly uphold the authority of Scripture on the other. I’m continually baffled by the human tendency to flock to one extreme or the other, in this case extremes of either hatred or relativism. I strongly agree with the happy medium which Dr. Pemberton described.

  2. 2006 March 27
    julie permalink

    Some of what I hear from some of you is what makes me angry and sometimes embarrassed to be a part of mainline Christianity. Why do we think that we are the only ones who can teach anyone anything? Why do we always refer to others as “they”? Why are we always so self-righteous? Why do we think we are the only ones who know what the Bible says and the only ones who can interpret it?
    Guess what!!! We are all sinners!!
    I read Chris Field’s thoughts on spending some time with Soulforce and his thoughts are fair and compassionate.

  3. 2006 March 27
    Bob permalink

    Daniel,
    Did you catch the quote (and I’m paraphrasing here): “I had considered going to school at ORU and I felt like I needed to make a statement by being arrested.”
    Never mind that there were plenty of statements being made several feet away … from off campus. She was trespassing, which I’m pretty sure is against the law, and decided she needed to make some headlines.
    Simple as that.

    Julie,
    Two sides to every story. Hang in there.

  4. 2006 March 27

    We must be very, very careful when we presume to have the moral and righteous high ground. Very few things are “simple as that,” and I’m thankful there are no websites now debating the righteousness or unrighteousness of my actions in my recent past. I don’t know near enough to make any statements about this group or their intentions. But this conversation occuring today at ACU is at least a generous and hospitable sign to this group that we are all fellow learners, and that the only One with the right to stand on moral high ground is the One whom we worship.

    I’m thankful for people wiser than me who are meeting them on the equal ground we share beneath the cross.

  5. 2006 March 27
    Another Mike permalink

    I’m an ACU grad now living in Virginia Beach preparing to return to school at Regent. Soulforce was here recently and, from what I was told and not what I saw, they are a group with an agenda that involves more than “understanding”. This presents some interesting scenarios in my mind. For example, what really are the deeper thoughts and beliefs that students, facutly and staff have at ACU about homosexuality? Is there unity, agreement, consensus about how to think about this issue? I think situations like this are vital to the overall health of institutions/churches/families where we are forced to take honest looks at where we really stand on certain matters. My hope and prayer is that ACU will strike that rare balance of love and truth in their actions with Soulforce.

  6. 2006 March 27
    Allison Brown permalink

    I too would like to say how proud I am of ACU for allowing this dialogue to occur. There is another benefit that can come from this event that I haven’t heard much being said about and that is what a great learning experience this is for the ACU students. During my years at ACU this is not the typical group I found myself encountering there, but now that I am out of college I find myself surrounded by people who are lost and hurting in this world. I think this hands on experience of listening to, learning to relate to, and reaching out in love people who have differing world views than ACU does is great preparation for what lots of students will find beyond their years at ACU. Who knows what God’s great plans are in all of this, but maybe this is preparing a student for ministry to friends and neighbors they will meet in years to come.

  7. 2006 March 27
    Martin F. permalink

    Ever get the feeling that we are plowing up ground that has already been plowed up. . . back in the 1940s, 50s, and 60s during the Civil Rights era? Weren’t Christians talking (arguing) about some acceptance issues then? I wonder how many segrationists look back to fifty years ago and are proud of what they fought for? How many of us will look back fifty years from now and be proud or ashamed of what we are saying and doing now? It doesn’t take an Einstein to see which direction civilization is heading now (perhaps with God’s blessing?). Just a crazy DREAM, but wouldn’t it be great if our CofC movement was distanced from other intolerant Christian traditions and we were the ones fifty years from now known for something besides our homophobia?

  8. 2006 March 27

    Personally, I think that it would have been a good move to publicly repent to the homosexual community for our elitist and insensetive attitudes toward them in the past. While I still believe that homosexuality is a sin, that does not justify our or anyone else’s abuse. I think a public confession would go a long way to opening up a fresh dialog between Christians and te homosexual community.

  9. 2006 March 27

    Take a stand, anywhere, and you’re intolerate of something. Is Bonhoeffer ashamed that he took part in the plan to assassinate Hitler? It was regrettable, to say the least. But shameful?

    Regarding the notion that pro-gay believers have a more-thoughtful hermeneutic: hanging around an Ivy divinity school for several years, I didn’t see that.

  10. 2006 March 27
    Daniel Gray permalink

    Bob,
    Sure they may be trying to get people’s attention, but that is because they want people to deal with the issues and not simply ignore them, like so many have done. But I can tell you what I am experiencing first hand today: These people are not simply gloating in their suffering in order to stir up dissension and controversy. These people are hurt and are tired of the hatred against them. They simply want the hatred, abuse, and oppression to end. And the only way to do that is to bring attention to what is happening. You can believe what you want about their intentions and emotions from their website (I wouldn’t necessarily trust the website), but having witnessed them in person, I see hurt people who are crying for justice and kindness…

  11. 2006 March 27

    I am so proud of my employer for responding this way. ACU had several ways to respond to a group whose purpose seems to be to challenge our student handbook and counseling center stances; they chose to say “Yes, we’ll talk about it. Please be our guests on campus.”

    Again, I am so, so proud to work at ACU.

  12. 2006 March 27
    Joe Don Ridgell permalink

    An open dialogue in the church has been desparately needed for decades concerning homosexuality. It is easy to call someone a sinner and leave it at that. However, it takes grace, love, and commitment to help someone who is living in or struggling with sin to get out. I have never understood why we accept some “sinners” in our church, i.e. idoloters, those who are jealous, greedy, or adulturers, but not others, specifically homosexuals.

    Hopefully, by ACU taking this step to open an honest dialogue, this will prompt churches to having a completely open door policy instead of a partial open door. Regardless of my personal beliefs, this is an issue that will only become larger over time and I hope I am part of a church that is known for healing all “sick” people instead of only admitting the “sick” people that we feel comfortable with.

  13. 2006 March 27
    Leland permalink

    Unhighlighted Mike said:

    “Those that disagree with us know why we hold the belief that we do. Can any of you articulate how they arrived at their understanding? Rather than simply looking to correct them, why not try to first understand their position, how they arrived where they are, and then attempt to reconcile it if it proves faulty.”

    Great words on any disagreement and honest communication. Equally intelligent people came come to two different conclusions (except Texas-OU matters). We always seek to correct before we seek to understand.

  14. 2006 March 27
    Bob permalink

    “These people are hurt and are tired of the hatred against them. They simply want the hatred, abuse, and oppression to end.”

    Daniel,
    I don’t mean this as being unsympathetic, uncaring or anything else. We should remember, however, that this is a CHOICE homosexuals are making. Choices have consequences, right or wrong.

  15. 2006 March 27

    I think that is such a great thing. You know -groups like Soulforce go to these Christian universities thinking they have a message to deliver to these “Christians”; but one thing I’ve learned, if they encounter Christ for real on campus, it will be Soulforce that will come away somehow changed and encountering a message God has for them instead of the other way around.

    Kudo’s to ACU for such a great open-campus policy to allow Soulforce to come. I would be proud, too!

  16. 2006 March 27
    Paul Clark permalink

    I am learning more and more that truth can really only be encountered and experienced by way of relationships, not neccesarily through expousing positions and expressing propositional statements. The former is messy, upredictable, and often the outcome unknown. But I think it gets us closer to the Truth (Jesus).

    I forwarded this story to a few church friends and asked, “What if this bus pulled up in front of our church? What would we do?”

    I hope they don’t come on the Sunday we have pot luck. (Sarcasm).

  17. 2006 March 27
    H.B. permalink

    I think that ACU has been very professional and have acted in a godly way. This must have been a tough decision to handle and they have done a great job. I think it is important to note that ACU also considers cohabitation of heterosexual behavior a call for discipilinary action as does the Bible. I am sure that if they threw pedophillia in the handbook as well there would be the same reaction. It should be important to note that not too long ago homosexuality was considered a psychological disorder. Wow, we have come a long way.

  18. 2006 March 27

    I’m sorry, Bob, but regardless of whether or not they have chosen to be homosexual, and I agree with your stance–it is a choice–regardless of their choice, physical and emotional violence to a person is never justified.

  19. 2006 March 27

    i found this at crosswalk.com about the visit to acu
    http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/MPerkins/?adate=03/27/2006

  20. 2006 March 27

    Yeah, this would never happen at Harding (someone asked above). Some of the students and faculty would be up for it, but the Administration would not stand for it.

  21. 2006 March 27
    Roger Whitaker permalink

    GKB-

    Thanks for speaking on behalf of Harding University.

    David Burks

  22. 2006 March 27
    Nicole Ashley permalink

    I am so proud of ACU and their response to this visit on campus. I keep thinking what it is Jesus would have done in this situation and I am drawn to the stories of Zaccheus and the adulterous woman. I think if Jesus has taught us anything it should be to show love and compassion to the sinner, while not accepting the sin. I think that is exactly what ACU is doing. Allowing this group on campus is not in any way validating the homosexual lifestyle, but I believe it is key to demonstrating the beauty of a Christian lifestyle. Way to go ACU! I’m proud to say I went there!

  23. 2006 March 27

    Roger:

    You think otherwise?

  24. 2006 March 27
    LAF permalink

    We have to let our light shine, otherwise they will not see it. They should be invited to sit at the table with us so that they will see our good deeds and know whom we are. Otherwise, how will we ever minister? We are so use to going to them to minister that when they come to us we don’t know how to react. ACU has answered the calling. Will you? This will be a day to remember in the history of ACU.

  25. 2006 March 27
    Roger Whitaker permalink

    GKB:

    What makes you think you are all-knowing?

  26. 2006 March 27
    lionelshock permalink

    Beverly: I like what you said, and I thnk we should remember that the question “Why should I ask for forgiveness” must come before “How should I ask for forgiveness.” Neither of these questions are likely to be asked across a police line.

    I also think we all ought to go ahead and follow Ed’s lead and say out loud, “I’m a ‘them’ (a struggling sinner).” It reminds me of Walt Kelly’s “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”

  27. 2006 March 27

    I never claimed to be all-knowing, Roger. I should have nuanced my statement and said something along the lines of “Based on my five or so years living in Searcy, both as a student and an alum, I am inclined to doubt the possibility of this ever happening at Harding.”

    Better?

  28. 2006 March 27

    Well, Mike…the numbers on this post surpassed your final four picks post..

    Can I just say, thank you Jesus, for loving me, the sinful woman that I am..Help me to see others as you see me..

    How wonderful to be able to talk so openly with my brothers and sisters and not get in a fight or a split over it..its so cool…thanks, Mike for your blog hospitality..

  29. 2006 March 27
    Daniel Gray permalink

    “Choices have consequences, right or wrong.”

    Bob,
    I’m referring to persecution, hate-crimes, harassment, murder, etc. of people in the LGBT community. Are you implying that these are valid consequences for what they choose? I’m not talking about eternal consequences for the way GOD chooses to have mercy (on “them” as well as “me”). I’m talking about the unhealthy and unrelation ways that we as humans treat one another. That is what’s wrong, and that is what must stop.

  30. 2006 March 27

    I will be honest and post that I don’t know I feel about this. I see the reasons from both sides. Good for discussion, but somewhat of a risk too. I just know that God is good and He is in control of ALL situations. That brings peace in a world full of turmoil and questions. Ephesians 3:20 seems appropriate here.

    “God can do anything, you know-far more than you could ever imagine or guess or request in your wildest dreams.”

    Praise God He is in control and not us!

  31. 2006 March 27
    Bob permalink

    Daniel,
    By no means am I justifying violence against gays and lesbians. What I am saying is that their CHOICE has consequences. There will always be hate-mongers who are seeking to physically abuse homosexuals. That’s a fact.
    I didn’t say I condone it or that it was right.

  32. 2006 March 27

    I just came out of a two hour meeting with representatives of SoulForce and students of the Graduate School of Theology/Marriage and Family Therapy and can say that nothing but honest humanity was shared by both sides. A fundamental difference still exists, and will probably always exist, but this encounter put very real faces and stories on a perspective of life that rose far above simple gay/sin/right/wrong rhetoric and revealed a passionate blend of people, on both sides of the aisle, that were willing to embrace each other as people. It became fairly clear through the first minutes of the meeting that our foundational approaches to the sinfulness/moral neutrality of homosexual behavior was not going to shift. That being established, the humanity of everyone involved began to emerge and by the time we left it had become not a collection of gays and Christians, but a collection of people who all had very important things to learn from the honesty of each other. Kudos to ACU for having the spiritual fortitude and intellectual integrity to facilitate such an encounter.

  33. 2006 March 27

    I know ACU did not ask for this. They were told that Soulforce was coming. They had to choices to talk or to turn away. Soulforce was coming reguardless. I am so proud of ACU for their incredible response to this. They will know we are Christians by our love….

    And just for Amy….

    Guacamole anyone?

  34. 2006 March 27

    I meant TWO choices.

  35. 2006 March 27

    I am proud of ACU’s handling of the visit by the Soulforce contingent. No doubt they have an agenda, as do we. The Gospel of God is what changes lives, may they bump into it several times as they visit Christian Campuses.

  36. 2006 March 27

    I’m so happy ACU took the response to this group visiting as they did! And while I am not currently in Abilene, and have yet to hear how the events of today panned out; I hope they went well and were handled by all in a mature manner.

    I recently wrote a blog entry about this topic and I can’t help but smile at how proud I am of my alma mater for taking the actions they did!

    I love the Dr. John Steven’s quote that Dr. Money has repeatedly referenced because of this situation. I too think there shouldn’t be any topic we, Christians or not, should shy away from talking about.

    I do not expect any policies to be changed at ACU because of this visit, nor am I saying any should, but I do not see ANY harm in openly allowing a topic–homosexuality or not, a sin or not, whatever the topic may be–to be discussed. If anything, this could possibly be an opportunity for ACU to defend what they believe in and possibly influence others.

    It saddens me so when I read about the way the Riders have been treated in their previous 6 stops.

    …sadly, I wonder if this controversy is more related to an issue of close-mindedness (being unwilling to even listen to someone’s else’s side), rather than an issue of “acceptance” as so many are putting is by saying, “look at which school is accepting the sinful homosexuals by allowing them to come speak on their campus”…

  37. 2006 March 27
    Dee permalink

    As a long-time resident of Searcy, HU alum, daughter of HU alum, wife and mother of HU alum, I believe that the love I’ve seen given to homosexuals in this community…while not condoning the sin…is in the spirit of Christ. One example is a secretary Mike Cope had while he was here…a young man much loved by the congregation who had AIDS as a result of his lifestyle. This young man who had a lot of musical talent knew everyone’s voice over the phone and was a computer whiz whom Mike called for help even after he moved. The Valentine’s Day he died White County Hospital’s halls were packed with Christians, singing him across Jordan into the arms of the Savior, and a few days later the church building was well-filled at his funeral. His family from another state was overwhelmed with the love and support…emotional, spiritual, financial…their loved one received during the last months/years of his life. A few days before he died he wrote a letter to the church thanking Christians for loving him, for helping him out of a sin he struggled with, and asking for forgiveness if there was anyone he had offended during his struggles.

  38. 2006 March 27
    Jeff Anderson permalink

    I am glad ACU opened their doors to Soulforce. As Jeff Walling discussed at the workshop, Jesus was found with the “wrong” kind of people all the time, and was greatly criticized for it. We should all think through how we can best touch our own little worlds for Christ. By the way, I thoroughly enjoyed both you and Randy Harris at the workshop. It makes me want to take Freshman Bible at ACU. It really made me reconsider how I am using my gifts/time/life I received from God.

  39. 2006 March 27
    Ted permalink

    As one who also received Dr. Money’s letter, I am amazed and proud of the changes happening at ACU.
    I was a freshman just a short 50yrs ago. I pray that todays freshman can witness the same kind of good-happening when they have their 50th class reunion.

  40. 2006 March 27
    kelli permalink

    I attended a student dialogue with the Soulforce folks today, and I was surprised at the way it went. Most surprising was being confronted with my own prejudices. I think of myself as a reasonably open-minded person, at least willing to listen to those with whom I disagree, so I was humbled to find prejudice lurking below the surface. I had assumed, as many who have posted here also seem to assume, that the Soulforce group would be mostly non-Christian, or at most only nominally Christian. It shocked me when at the beginning of the dialogue they each told the stories of their faith journeys; each person who shared has grown up in church and are followers of Jesus Christ. I was further shocked to hear them talk about discipleship and growing more in Christlike-ness.

    Let me state clearly that I think homosexual behavior is a sin. But as I listened to the Soulforce group talk about their walks with Christ, I began to stop thinking in terms of “us” and “them.” I felt my heart moving in the direction of love and compassion instead. Usually, I think that’s a Holy Spirit move. They might have an agenda, just as we do; I think both groups are out to plant some seeds. But I think they also share the desire to pursue Christ and are trying to do so. I don’t think that homosexuality is acceptable, but there’s more to this than argumentation. We’re encountering others who are made in the image of God, others who really do desire to follow Christ. I was glad to be stretched today by the discussion.

  41. 2006 March 27

    So far today, there have been about 6000 “hits.” Obviously, there are so many areas for us to think through christianly.

    Let me suggest three valuable resources for studying this topic:

    Stanley Grenz, Welcoming But Not Affirming: An Evangelical REsponse to Homosexuality. GET THIS BOOK! Here’s what Ron Sider, one of my evangelical heroes said about it: “concise, compassionate and compelling–a superb statement of the historic Christian position.”

    Richard Hays, The Moral Vision of the New Testament, pp. 379-406. The best brief statement I know of why the Christian church has traditionally opposed homosexuality, even while showing great compassion.

    William Webb, Slaves, Women, and Homosexuals. Some say that those who knock down barriers with women in ministry and leadership will eventually do the same with homosexuality. Webb shows why biblically that is a wrong assumption.

  42. 2006 March 27

    Thank you, Kelli, for pointing out something that I’ve been thinking the whole time I was reading the comments on this thread.

    I get so frustrated when I hear people endlessly discuss “Christians and homosexuals” as if the two were mutually exclusive groups. MANY people are both gay and Christian. I am not surprised that you found this to be the case with the Soulforce group.

    And as a Christian, a former Harding University student, and a gay man, I really appreciate that ACU has been so welcoming to this particular group of their brothers and sisters in Christ.

  43. 2006 March 28

    As a member of Sally’s support group for those who struggle with homosexuality, let me throw in a few words.

    First, I did not choose homosexuality. NO ONE wants to wake up one day and be gay. The life is too rough to be desired. Also, Bob, violence against, and intolerance for, homosexuals is not a “consequence” of a “choice.” It is hate that has no place in the human race, let alone the body of Christ. You don’t get to get away with hinting that it might be anything less.

    Secondly, let me tell you what being a Christian who struggles against this is like. I hate living in my own skin. Every night, you can find me begging God to release me from my shame and pain. And that still doesn’t change how I feel towards people of my own gender. It is not an issue of having enough faith to be healed, or being turned straight. It is being at the same level of brokeness as everyone else, with much more stigma.

    Everyday, I fear that someone will find me out. Expose me. Shame me.

    Everyday, I wait for healing that may not come until after I draw my last breath.

    And everyday, I am consumed by guilt that I cannot escape, even though I know that Christ’s blood covers me fully. One day, I will accept my place as a beloved child of God. For now, though, I still hide behind a veil of lies to my family, friends, and almost everyone else.

  44. 2006 March 28

    Thanks for the booklist, Mike. I met the late Stan Grenz briefly (he taught in my ‘hometown’), and read Sexual Ethics, but not Accepting But Not Affirming in particular. But I’m happy to add you suggestions to my overloaded reading list!

    I don’t know how I went through 8 years in ACU’s CBS/GST without being assigned any of his stuff. But even if they didn’t give us Stan Grenz to read, they still made a good move with Soulforce. Yes, I think homosexual behavoiur is a sin, and that homosexual orientation is not what our Creator God wants/intends/designed for people. But I sure wish I’d been able to sit in on the GST/MFT session, and I’m envious/proud of Derran and Ann Reese and Justin Tuggle for busting out with the hospitality.

  45. 2006 March 28
    BrandonT permalink

    I applaud ACU for allowing dialogue to occur. As an ACU alumn, I think ACU did me a great disservice by exposing me to only one side of every issue–the fiscally and socially conservative one. College should be a place where one is exposed and confronted with an array of viewpoints.

    I agree with those that have posted that the issue of homosexualtiy is not black and white. Given our past racial indescretions we should treat the idea of “black and white” with care. Just a couple of generations ago our grandparents and great-grandparents had had the same discussion substituting the words “negroes” (or worse) with “gays”. I’m not saying that I’m sure that the 2 issues are an absolute historical parallel–but at the very least it should give us pause to reflect and consider the possibility.

  46. 2006 March 28

    Check out this piece by Matali Perkins from crosswalk.com (which someone linked to earlier):

    The “Soulforce” Bus Litmus Test

    Your teen is considering a Christian college, and you’re wondering how four years in a cloistered environment will equip him to serve as a diplomat for Christ in the “real” world. Here’s your chance to find out which schools excel at that task.

    Track the route of 33 young adults on a seven-week bus journey with a mission “to confront colleges that ban the enrollment of LGBT students,” and consider the varied responses of the administration, faculty, and the students on each campus. If my son wanted to apply to Abilene Christian University, for example, I’d support him wholeheartedly after reading president Royce Money’s response:

    (This visit) been a sobering reminder to me that it’s easier to condemn and avoid than encounter and be a Christian witness … One of the good things it has done (is) make us realize that we had not done a good job in informing our students to deal with a variety of cultural forces that they will face after college. So this has encouraged us to do a better job … The true character of an institution is shown in the way it faces certain challenges, and this visit is such a challenge. Therefore, it is important we conduct ourselves in a Christ-like manner in what we do and say — and I think we will.

    A student editorial echoes Money’s sentiments. The bus arrives on that campus today, and it seems to me that members of the Church of Christ can indulge in a bit of godly pride (if there is such a thing) as their flagship University hosts these young visitors.

    I encourage you to pray for each college as the bus travels across the country, as well as for each of the thirty-three riders by name, and share with us what you know and think about their visits.

  47. 2006 March 28
    Bill permalink

    Bob said: “I don’t mean this as being unsympathetic, uncaring or anything else. We should remember, however, that this is a CHOICE homosexuals are making. Choices have consequences, right or wrong.”

    I have to say, Bob, that as a teacher and a Christian, I’ve known a lot of gays and lesbians over the years. I’ve had students in my office weeping because their parents would no longer speak to them or acknowledge that they were alive. I’ve had students in my office who were verbally and emotionally abused to the point of suicide. I’ve had students in my office still bearing the bruises and scars of physical violence. And what I can say in every case is that I’ve never met a single person who CHOSE to be homosexual… Sat down and said, “You know, I think being gay would be a great idea. I’m going to give that a try for a while.” Such a choice, given the prevailing views of our churches, our families, and even our culture at large (which has voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage, gay rights, etc.) would be the stupidest and most short-sighted choice a person could make….

    So in thinking about homosexuality, I suppose it might be illuminating to remember back to the days when we sat down and decided that our sexual orientation would be straight–looked at the options and said “I think I’ll be a heterosexual.” If it’s hard to remember the day you made that call–if you always just felt yourself to be who you are–then you can perhaps begin to understand where the homosexuals I’ve known are coming from… They didn’t pick this, and many of them have spent a significant amount of time trying to fight it or run from it or deny it–trying to pick something else. I don’t know whether it’s nature or nurture, something genetic or something that comes from things they’ve faced in their lives, but I do know that it’s just who my students feel themselves to be.

    And that says nothing, you should note, about whether or not homosexuality is a sin–which, to be frank (and pretty radical) seems sort of beside the point. After all, which of us isn’t involved with–infested with–sin? Gluttony, greed, lust, gossip, lying…. If we’re trying to act out of purity, we shouldn’t let any of THOSE people in the church without calling them to account for their CHOICE (remember: choices have consequences, right or wrong). I know some pretty flagrant sinners in those areas in our churches. Heck, I’m a pretty flagrant sinner in those areas…. So how do we meet and respond to people who’ve made those choices? What’s Christ’s message? What’s the witness of scripture? Love first. If you’re a sinner, we love you. If you’re fallen, we welcome you. If you’ve made bad choices, we give you a safe place. The change in your life will come later through the spirit and the ministry of fellow Christians, but the love comes first. So if we think homosexuality is a sin, we’re called to love. If we think it isn’t, we’re called to love. That’s what our family does. It’s who we are.

    As for the SoulForce riders, they’ve been courteous and thoughtful. They’ve said publicly that they’re not here to try to convince anyone that homosexuality is not a sin; they’re merely here to call Christians to act for justice, peace, and compassion–to protect the outcast, the stranger, the downtrodden. That seems like a pretty Christlike thing to ask us to do. And they’ve been deeply moved by the welcome and blessing they’ve received from being treated with humanity and compassion. One presenter said to me, the emotion evident on his face, that this is the first university in their entire trip that’s let them make their presentation; all 7 of the universities they’ve previously visited have refused to let them even be heard, many locking them out of campus entirely. The image of the praying-hands statue at the entrance of Oral Roberts University surrounded by police barricades and orange cones stands in sharp contrast to the welcome they feel here at ACU–and welcoming the sinner–me, you, them–is always the first thing God does. I don’t know about the rest of the folks at the other schools, but I certainly know that the people at ACU will be able to sing–with clear hearts and with no touch of irony–”They’ll know we are Christians by our love…” I’m proud to be at ACU, and I’m glad to have a God who loves me, even when I’m still a sinner.

  48. 2006 March 28
    AtlantaBob permalink

    It looks like Soulforce’s visit to ACU was a success by the comments posted here. I wish they could visit every school that doesn’t want them as students.

    It’s healthy for Christian exclusionary policies to be challenged.

  49. 2006 March 28

    AtlantaBob – I’m hearing today from lots of ACU people who are overwhelmed with all the things they witnessed God doing in the past couple days. And just because a Christian school has a policy forbidding ANY kind of sexual relationship outside of marriage between a man and a woman (homosexual or heterosexual) doesn’t mean that people aren’t welcome.

  50. 2006 March 28

    There is obviously a lot of interest on this visit of Soulforce and on the larger topic of homosexuality. If I have time, I’ll try to post on this again later in the week.

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