Comments on: Memorial Day http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387 Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:59:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: ed http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4469 ed Tue, 31 May 2005 14:15:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4469 i appreciate Mike admitting to the obvious complexities of the issues involved with war, peace, Christianity, and patriotism. only one-dimensional thinkers necessarily connect patriotism with being a Christian, or supporting any given war with being american. in this respect, i would put Carman and Toby Keith at the same level of "thought." i appreciate Mike admitting to the obvious complexities of the issues involved with war, peace, Christianity, and patriotism. only one-dimensional thinkers necessarily connect patriotism with being a Christian, or supporting any given war with being american. in this respect, i would put Carman and Toby Keith at the same level of “thought.”

]]> By: happytheman http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4468 happytheman Tue, 31 May 2005 13:11:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4468 Carman isn't he the guy that stands over the group counting the money at his free concerts.... Carman isn’t he the guy that stands over the group counting the money at his free concerts….

]]> By: Steve Jr. http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4467 Steve Jr. Tue, 31 May 2005 02:53:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4467 I was just watching a special on The Big Hair Network (TBN) featuring legendary Christian artist Carman. He's really been on a patriotic kick lately, apparently. His new song (on his latest praise album, incedentally...) is called "The Red, White and Blue." The video he showed while performing the song was of the World Trade Towers falling on 9/11, then it triumphantly cut over to Bush's speech immediately afterward, where he said, "Whether we bring the terrorists to justice, or bring justice to the terrorists, justice will be served." I searched for the complete lyrics to Carman's "The Red, White and Blue," but couldn't find them. He basically follows that moving intro by saying that we (all Christians, presumably) stand by our country in bringing justice to people who try to bring America down, and the refrain will really make you squirm: "The red, the white, the blue will last forever. There's nothing that America can't do..." Then I entered the twilight zone, apparently. I thought I saw Carman showing the footage of the Saddam Hussein statue coming down in Baghdad. Yep, I definitely saw it. I guess Carman never got the memo that Saddam wasn't at all involved in what happened to us on Sept. 11, 2001. Anyway. I think that song pretty much somes up the evangelical (at least the vocal ones) stance on this war. It's a shame. "Vengeance is mine, says the Lord." -- The Bible I was just watching a special on The Big Hair Network (TBN) featuring legendary Christian artist Carman. He’s really been on a patriotic kick lately, apparently. His new song (on his latest praise album, incedentally…) is called “The Red, White and Blue.” The video he showed while performing the song was of the World Trade Towers falling on 9/11, then it triumphantly cut over to Bush’s speech immediately afterward, where he said, “Whether we bring the terrorists to justice, or bring justice to the terrorists, justice will be served.”

I searched for the complete lyrics to Carman’s “The Red, White and Blue,” but couldn’t find them. He basically follows that moving intro by saying that we (all Christians, presumably) stand by our country in bringing justice to people who try to bring America down, and the refrain will really make you squirm:

“The red, the white, the blue will last forever. There’s nothing that America can’t do…”

Then I entered the twilight zone, apparently. I thought I saw Carman showing the footage of the Saddam Hussein statue coming down in Baghdad. Yep, I definitely saw it. I guess Carman never got the memo that Saddam wasn’t at all involved in what happened to us on Sept. 11, 2001.

Anyway.

I think that song pretty much somes up the evangelical (at least the vocal ones) stance on this war. It’s a shame.

“Vengeance is mine, says the Lord.” — The Bible

]]> By: ed http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4466 ed Tue, 31 May 2005 02:17:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4466 a truly troublesome issue. i can only deal with it in the context of this being a fallen world. even the Prince of Peace Himself said there will always be wars and rumors of wars. it's a terrible, mournful fact, and it grieves me beyond comprehension. a truly troublesome issue. i can only deal with it in the context of this being a fallen world. even the Prince of Peace Himself said there will always be wars and rumors of wars. it’s a terrible, mournful fact, and it grieves me beyond comprehension.

]]> By: Tony Arnold http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4465 Tony Arnold Mon, 30 May 2005 23:45:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4465 Mike, AMEN. And Amen to Chad's comment as well. I too have stuggled with this war while perserving my deep respect and appreciation for all those who serve our country. Lee Camp and his book have had a great impact on my thinking and have caused a significant shift in my understanding and practice of discipleship. It led to me starting my own blog on the issue in an effort to promote dialogue that would help myself and others grow. It is a great privilege to be able to call Lee a friend. Tony <a HREF="http://www.tonyarnold.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tony's Blog</A> Mike, AMEN.

And Amen to Chad’s comment as well.

I too have stuggled with this war while perserving my deep respect and appreciation for all those who serve our country.

Lee Camp and his book have had a great impact on my thinking and have caused a significant shift in my understanding and practice of discipleship. It led to me starting my own blog on the issue in an effort to promote dialogue that would help myself and others grow.

It is a great privilege to be able to call Lee a friend.

Tony
Tony’s Blog

]]> By: Chad Nall http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4464 Chad Nall Mon, 30 May 2005 20:30:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4464 I remember reading All Quiet on the Western Front, a WWI-based novel about the personal affect of war. It broght home the brokenness of humanity and our desperate need for the peace and reconcilliation that only God, through Jesus Christ can offer. May we all strive to be ambassadors of reconcilliation, not war. I remember reading All Quiet on the Western Front, a WWI-based novel about the personal affect of war. It broght home the brokenness of humanity and our desperate need for the peace and reconcilliation that only God, through Jesus Christ can offer. May we all strive to be ambassadors of reconcilliation, not war.

]]> By: Holly http://preachermike.com/2005/05/30/111746529502025387#comment-4463 Holly Mon, 30 May 2005 14:25:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=519#comment-4463 That was beautifully stated. You took something that many of us struggle with (myself included) and ended it refocused on the Kingdom of Heaven with the words of Isaiah. Peace. That was beautifully stated. You took something that many of us struggle with (myself included) and ended it refocused on the Kingdom of Heaven with the words of Isaiah. Peace.

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