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	<title>Comments on: Toe-to-Toe Without Eye-for-Eye</title>
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		<title>By: Lucinda Ross</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3612</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucinda Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Beaner --

No one is judging.  Michael Schiavo has clearly demonstrated what kind of person he is.  One year after receiving a huge malpractice settlement, and then shacking up with another woman, he suddenly remembered that Terri wanted to die -- many years after Terri was first injured.

Did you know that he plans to bury Terri's remains somewhere in Pennsylvania and not tell her parents where?

Yeah.  What a great guy.

OOOOOH, Sorry!  Was I judging that poor man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Beaner &#8211;</p>
<p>No one is judging.  Michael Schiavo has clearly demonstrated what kind of person he is.  One year after receiving a huge malpractice settlement, and then shacking up with another woman, he suddenly remembered that Terri wanted to die &#8212; many years after Terri was first injured.</p>
<p>Did you know that he plans to bury Terri&#8217;s remains somewhere in Pennsylvania and not tell her parents where?</p>
<p>Yeah.  What a great guy.</p>
<p>OOOOOH, Sorry!  Was I judging that poor man?</p>
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		<title>By: Bev Mann</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>Bev Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep...can't we all just be friends..:)

Fences..they are everywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;can&#8217;t we all just be friends..:)</p>
<p>Fences..they are everywhere</p>
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		<title>By: Bj</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>Bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student in your class I would like to thank you.  I really love how you and Randy are able to teach, without having to teach.  I really wish this was adapted by more of the faculty at ACU.  I am typically the type of student that never speaks up mainly because I wait and let others share their opinion first.

I was really amazed like you how the class handled everything.  I think that my generation is seeing the negative impact of pushing our views and ideas on to each other. We see the need to use a different approach. I whole hearty believe that we can never go into a room with the opinion we are right and you are wrong.  I think when we do that we close our hearts, minds and shut the door to any future communication.  

I would also like to thank you for talking about the Schaivo case.  Even though it has been talked about way too much.  I know that you and Randy offer a vast knowledge on the subject and I really felt blessed to sit in the classroom.  I also thought it very interesting how much emotion is played in this case.  I don’t know if you made the connection with the students who have family members that have been in a CVS, are in a state of CVS, or might be in one in the near future.  I really thought it was intriguing to hear the words and agreements from my fellow students.  

I just wanted to say that I fell very blessed to be able to learn from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student in your class I would like to thank you.  I really love how you and Randy are able to teach, without having to teach.  I really wish this was adapted by more of the faculty at ACU.  I am typically the type of student that never speaks up mainly because I wait and let others share their opinion first.</p>
<p>I was really amazed like you how the class handled everything.  I think that my generation is seeing the negative impact of pushing our views and ideas on to each other. We see the need to use a different approach. I whole hearty believe that we can never go into a room with the opinion we are right and you are wrong.  I think when we do that we close our hearts, minds and shut the door to any future communication.  </p>
<p>I would also like to thank you for talking about the Schaivo case.  Even though it has been talked about way too much.  I know that you and Randy offer a vast knowledge on the subject and I really felt blessed to sit in the classroom.  I also thought it very interesting how much emotion is played in this case.  I don’t know if you made the connection with the students who have family members that have been in a CVS, are in a state of CVS, or might be in one in the near future.  I really thought it was intriguing to hear the words and agreements from my fellow students.  </p>
<p>I just wanted to say that I fell very blessed to be able to learn from you.</p>
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		<title>By: KentF</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3609</link>
		<dc:creator>KentF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts (and bias) on disagreements as it relates to the church:  
Those that are anchored to and worshippers of tradition are opposed to the seeker's desire and proposed actions to develop a deeper and more intimate relationship with God - i.e. a more Spirit-filled worship, classes, devotionals, activities, etc. that promote relationship over rules.  The seeker feels their Spirit is being quenched, so, rather than complain (as the more more traditionalists are wont to do) -- they leave.  Many I know consider the disagreement field no different than the slippery slope. There is no disagreement - they and God are correct - and they've been correct for 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts (and bias) on disagreements as it relates to the church:<br />
Those that are anchored to and worshippers of tradition are opposed to the seeker&#8217;s desire and proposed actions to develop a deeper and more intimate relationship with God - i.e. a more Spirit-filled worship, classes, devotionals, activities, etc. that promote relationship over rules.  The seeker feels their Spirit is being quenched, so, rather than complain (as the more more traditionalists are wont to do) &#8212; they leave.  Many I know consider the disagreement field no different than the slippery slope. There is no disagreement - they and God are correct - and they&#8217;ve been correct for 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3608</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This debate is a difficult one.  I have heard many Christians argue that anyone who thought Terri should be kept alive must not believe in(or look forward to) an afterlife.  

I argue that God created life.  He told us to love our neighbor as ourself and do not murder.  I look forward to one day being in heaven, but while I am on earth, I want to protect this sacred gift that God has given us...life.

Go Illini!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This debate is a difficult one.  I have heard many Christians argue that anyone who thought Terri should be kept alive must not believe in(or look forward to) an afterlife.  </p>
<p>I argue that God created life.  He told us to love our neighbor as ourself and do not murder.  I look forward to one day being in heaven, but while I am on earth, I want to protect this sacred gift that God has given us&#8230;life.</p>
<p>Go Illini!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Spears</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3607</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Spears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard this story about two men disagreeing over "proper discipline." 

The first man told the second:   "You can't keep putting up with his behavior.   It's time to get tough!!  Didn't you read Dobson's book?  You can't keep giving him all these chances.   Your boy shouldn't live like this!!! Your boy is ruining his life and he also ruining yours.  NO father should take this crap from his son.

The second man replied:   But you are not HIS Father. 

My point:  No one, I mean, No one can speak about the Shaivo case...unless you've been there.  Either on the parent's side or the husband's.  

Ladies and Gentlemen:   Compassion

There's an old saying that opinions are like...never mind.

jonspears2000@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard this story about two men disagreeing over &#8220;proper discipline.&#8221; </p>
<p>The first man told the second:   &#8220;You can&#8217;t keep putting up with his behavior.   It&#8217;s time to get tough!!  Didn&#8217;t you read Dobson&#8217;s book?  You can&#8217;t keep giving him all these chances.   Your boy shouldn&#8217;t live like this!!! Your boy is ruining his life and he also ruining yours.  NO father should take this crap from his son.</p>
<p>The second man replied:   But you are not HIS Father. </p>
<p>My point:  No one, I mean, No one can speak about the Shaivo case&#8230;unless you&#8217;ve been there.  Either on the parent&#8217;s side or the husband&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Ladies and Gentlemen:   Compassion</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old saying that opinions are like&#8230;never mind.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:jonspears2000@yahoo.com">jonspears2000@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Spears</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3606</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Spears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Spears</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Spears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Spears</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Spears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brandon Moore</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3603</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Greased pig" thats awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greased pig&#8221; thats awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Krister</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3602</link>
		<dc:creator>Krister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiritual theology speaks of the stance of a learned ignorance that one must adopt in order to experience true spiritual growth.  This involves a reliance upon a way of not knowing as a way of truly knowing the Divine.  Perhaps what we need, on either side of this issue, is a little dose of humility along with an acceptance of our limited understanding of God as God truly is.  

We're so quick in trying to wrap our minds around an issue or concept that when we come to a decision, we feel as if we have reached the intellectual summit.  This is easily transferred to our experience of God.  Historically, people didn't know what to do with Christ.  We tried to wrap our minds around the dichotomy of his existence, even to the point of literally trying to nail him down.  As my professor, Elaine Robinson has said, "We've tried nailing God down before.  It didn't work."  

May God continue to slip through our hands like a greased pig, ever calling us forward to enjoy the struggle rather than obsessing about the outcome or establishing our position.  We often confuse unity with uniformity.  Let us hold to the power of the incarnated Christ in the diversity of his followers.  It's a beautifiul sight to behold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiritual theology speaks of the stance of a learned ignorance that one must adopt in order to experience true spiritual growth.  This involves a reliance upon a way of not knowing as a way of truly knowing the Divine.  Perhaps what we need, on either side of this issue, is a little dose of humility along with an acceptance of our limited understanding of God as God truly is.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re so quick in trying to wrap our minds around an issue or concept that when we come to a decision, we feel as if we have reached the intellectual summit.  This is easily transferred to our experience of God.  Historically, people didn&#8217;t know what to do with Christ.  We tried to wrap our minds around the dichotomy of his existence, even to the point of literally trying to nail him down.  As my professor, Elaine Robinson has said, &#8220;We&#8217;ve tried nailing God down before.  It didn&#8217;t work.&#8221;  </p>
<p>May God continue to slip through our hands like a greased pig, ever calling us forward to enjoy the struggle rather than obsessing about the outcome or establishing our position.  We often confuse unity with uniformity.  Let us hold to the power of the incarnated Christ in the diversity of his followers.  It&#8217;s a beautifiul sight to behold.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Moore</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3601</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree to agree, agree to disagree, agree to agree, and disagree to disagree.  Thats why I'm so screwed up, but it all makes sense if you think about it.  

Illinois is going to win it all, because there guards won't let them lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree to agree, agree to disagree, agree to agree, and disagree to disagree.  Thats why I&#8217;m so screwed up, but it all makes sense if you think about it.  </p>
<p>Illinois is going to win it all, because there guards won&#8217;t let them lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Beaner</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3600</link>
		<dc:creator>Beaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Sorry about the multiple posts - I was having a BIG problem w/Blogger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Sorry about the multiple posts - I was having a BIG problem w/Blogger!</p>
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		<title>By: Beaner</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3599</link>
		<dc:creator>Beaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beaner</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/03/31/111222389144658877#comment-3597</link>
		<dc:creator>Beaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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