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		<title>By: Mary Coverly</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-41087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Coverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-8599</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intro to &lt;a HREF="http://www.normism.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;neo tech secret&lt;/A&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Harper</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's been SO encouraging uplifting to come out of legalism and to see so many others doing so. The restoration movement is becoming a movement again instead of a monument.

Kevin Harper
&lt;a HREF="http://www.gospelunion.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;gospelunion.com&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been SO encouraging uplifting to come out of legalism and to see so many others doing so. The restoration movement is becoming a movement again instead of a monument.</p>
<p>Kevin Harper<br />
<a HREF="http://www.gospelunion.com" rel="nofollow">gospelunion.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3097</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to "Fajita". To treat others like I want to be treated is one of the hardest things to actually do--I pray daily that I can just study God's Word, grow in the Spirit, and experience joy and peace, and not let differing opinions get in the way of my walk with Our Father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to &#8220;Fajita&#8221;. To treat others like I want to be treated is one of the hardest things to actually do&#8211;I pray daily that I can just study God&#8217;s Word, grow in the Spirit, and experience joy and peace, and not let differing opinions get in the way of my walk with Our Father.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Dee Andrews'post!</description>
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		<title>By: Fajita</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>Fajita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a lot funnier topic if it were not so sad. 

However, like so many issues, it is not the issue that is the issue, but rather what the issue reveals about the people with whom it is an issue. 

You think no instruments is right? Fine. How are you treating those with instruments? And vice versa. 

My personal history reveals me to be one kind of idiot on two sides of the issue. 

My goal now is to revere God and love people when I talk of this or any other issue. God give me the courage to do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a lot funnier topic if it were not so sad. </p>
<p>However, like so many issues, it is not the issue that is the issue, but rather what the issue reveals about the people with whom it is an issue. </p>
<p>You think no instruments is right? Fine. How are you treating those with instruments? And vice versa. </p>
<p>My personal history reveals me to be one kind of idiot on two sides of the issue. </p>
<p>My goal now is to revere God and love people when I talk of this or any other issue. God give me the courage to do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back I was working in the DC area for several months and worshipped with the folks at Journey's Crossing (www.ilovethischurch.com).  They are an independent Christian church that "rocks."  It was my first experience really getting to know the folks on the other side of 1906, and it was one of the greatest spiritual blessings of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back I was working in the DC area for several months and worshipped with the folks at Journey&#8217;s Crossing (www.ilovethischurch.com).  They are an independent Christian church that &#8220;rocks.&#8221;  It was my first experience really getting to know the folks on the other side of 1906, and it was one of the greatest spiritual blessings of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: David Michael</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-8598</link>
		<dc:creator>David Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back I was working in the DC area for several months and worshipped with the folks at Journey's Crossing (www.ilovethischurch.com).  They are an independent Christian church that "rocks."  It was my first experience really getting to know the folks on the other side of 1906, and it was one of the greatest spiritual blessings of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back I was working in the DC area for several months and worshipped with the folks at Journey&#8217;s Crossing (www.ilovethischurch.com).  They are an independent Christian church that &#8220;rocks.&#8221;  It was my first experience really getting to know the folks on the other side of 1906, and it was one of the greatest spiritual blessings of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Beverly</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I am an Ozark Graduate, and had a great experience there.  I am sorry that they are missing out on hearing you speak!

I am hopeful that someday we can bring some of the Ozark folks here (Abilene/Highland). I would love to have our folks hear people like Mark Scott, Jackina Stark, and so many others who blessed me during my time there.  Any chance that something like that is in the works?

I will close, trusting that you will be able to be there next time!

Beverly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I am an Ozark Graduate, and had a great experience there.  I am sorry that they are missing out on hearing you speak!</p>
<p>I am hopeful that someday we can bring some of the Ozark folks here (Abilene/Highland). I would love to have our folks hear people like Mark Scott, Jackina Stark, and so many others who blessed me during my time there.  Any chance that something like that is in the works?</p>
<p>I will close, trusting that you will be able to be there next time!</p>
<p>Beverly</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was a child in the southern churches of Christ in the '50s.  my favorite ironic hymn lyric that we used to sing with such fervor was from the song "Break Thou the Bread of Life"-
"beyond the sacred page I seek Thee Lord." 
interesting sentiment for people who believed the sum total of God's revelation was contained exclusively between the covers of the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a child in the southern churches of Christ in the &#8217;50s.  my favorite ironic hymn lyric that we used to sing with such fervor was from the song &#8220;Break Thou the Bread of Life&#8221;-<br />
&#8220;beyond the sacred page I seek Thee Lord.&#8221;<br />
interesting sentiment for people who believed the sum total of God&#8217;s revelation was contained exclusively between the covers of the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee O'Neil Andrews</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee O'Neil Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, grew up in a small West Texas town (of about 3,000 just north of Lubbock, which shall remain nameless) believing that "we" were the only ones going to Heaven, although, I don't know that I ever said that to anyone out loud.  But, my Baptist and Methodist friends all knew it and some remind me to this day (some 40 something years later) that that was our "theology" and deepest belief.

In our town, it was the Baptists, Methodists and Church of Christ, which was a big issue when it came to electing members of the school board because neither the Baptists nor the c of C believed in dancing, while with Methodists, pretty much anything went.  Not that anything much went on.  I grew up in a time and age where no one I knew at all smoked or drank and I never heard four letter words or bad language from anyone in the entire town!  Those were the days, in a lot of ways, but the religious prejudices and practices we learned and lived left a lot to be desired.

Fortunately, I left there, as did my entire family(even though my parents had grown up there, too), who all learned a much better way and we are all much better Christians for the changes, thanks be to God's grace and love in our lives and the influences of many vibrant Christians in other places.

But, I think that we most times over complicate the entire matter of differences we have with other religious groups on a lot of issues, but, in particular, instrumental music.  I live far away from Abilene, which is rather a world unto itself, in my opinion, because of the strong Christian influences there, and perhaps not in touch as much with how things "really are" out here in the "hinterlands," (in South Louisiana, which is predominately Catholic, with innumerable varieties of Baptists right up the road in Mississippi).  This is really a mission area in many ways.  We don't have the luxury of having a congregation on every corner, with a lot of different views on worship and/or everything else to choose from in inviting people where to attend and participate, and have to approach Christianity from a very simple, practical perspective, which I believe is Biblical.

It seems to me in talking with people outside the c of C, which I do a LOT, where not much about the c of C is known at all and what is known is not negative in any way (from lack of background and the understanding that we have about church "politics")that the best way to identify ourselves is just as "Christians," too, who practice and worship the way we do because God intended, thorough Jesus and the Gospel, for us to be able to worship in "Spirit and in truth," - anywhere in the world - in any situation imaginable -  without needing anything other than our own bodies - for singing, praying, testifying, preaching, edifying, fellowshipping, and so on - and some bread and some grape juice (or dare I say it?) wine.

You know what's really amazing.  Everyone I talk with - without exception - understands that and thinks that it makes a lot of sense!  That approach solves the need to get into long theological discussions about whether instrumental music is correct and/or appropriate and on and on, and covers a multitude of other issues, too, without anyone getting upset or turned off by our attitude.

It's not opinion.  It's what we find that Jesus taught in the New Testament and that early Christians practiced.  It's not that I believe we have to go back and do everything as they did, because we don't.  We can't.  We don't have to.  God made it very simple.  Wherever we are, in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in our journey through life, we can worship, we can praise, we can fellowship, with or without many things we sometimes want to make issues of.  Who cares?  I truly don't believe that God does!  

To God be the glory, forever and ever, in whatever we do and however we do it. - Dee Andrews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, grew up in a small West Texas town (of about 3,000 just north of Lubbock, which shall remain nameless) believing that &#8220;we&#8221; were the only ones going to Heaven, although, I don&#8217;t know that I ever said that to anyone out loud.  But, my Baptist and Methodist friends all knew it and some remind me to this day (some 40 something years later) that that was our &#8220;theology&#8221; and deepest belief.</p>
<p>In our town, it was the Baptists, Methodists and Church of Christ, which was a big issue when it came to electing members of the school board because neither the Baptists nor the c of C believed in dancing, while with Methodists, pretty much anything went.  Not that anything much went on.  I grew up in a time and age where no one I knew at all smoked or drank and I never heard four letter words or bad language from anyone in the entire town!  Those were the days, in a lot of ways, but the religious prejudices and practices we learned and lived left a lot to be desired.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I left there, as did my entire family(even though my parents had grown up there, too), who all learned a much better way and we are all much better Christians for the changes, thanks be to God&#8217;s grace and love in our lives and the influences of many vibrant Christians in other places.</p>
<p>But, I think that we most times over complicate the entire matter of differences we have with other religious groups on a lot of issues, but, in particular, instrumental music.  I live far away from Abilene, which is rather a world unto itself, in my opinion, because of the strong Christian influences there, and perhaps not in touch as much with how things &#8220;really are&#8221; out here in the &#8220;hinterlands,&#8221; (in South Louisiana, which is predominately Catholic, with innumerable varieties of Baptists right up the road in Mississippi).  This is really a mission area in many ways.  We don&#8217;t have the luxury of having a congregation on every corner, with a lot of different views on worship and/or everything else to choose from in inviting people where to attend and participate, and have to approach Christianity from a very simple, practical perspective, which I believe is Biblical.</p>
<p>It seems to me in talking with people outside the c of C, which I do a LOT, where not much about the c of C is known at all and what is known is not negative in any way (from lack of background and the understanding that we have about church &#8220;politics&#8221;)that the best way to identify ourselves is just as &#8220;Christians,&#8221; too, who practice and worship the way we do because God intended, thorough Jesus and the Gospel, for us to be able to worship in &#8220;Spirit and in truth,&#8221; - anywhere in the world - in any situation imaginable -  without needing anything other than our own bodies - for singing, praying, testifying, preaching, edifying, fellowshipping, and so on - and some bread and some grape juice (or dare I say it?) wine.</p>
<p>You know what&#8217;s really amazing.  Everyone I talk with - without exception - understands that and thinks that it makes a lot of sense!  That approach solves the need to get into long theological discussions about whether instrumental music is correct and/or appropriate and on and on, and covers a multitude of other issues, too, without anyone getting upset or turned off by our attitude.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not opinion.  It&#8217;s what we find that Jesus taught in the New Testament and that early Christians practiced.  It&#8217;s not that I believe we have to go back and do everything as they did, because we don&#8217;t.  We can&#8217;t.  We don&#8217;t have to.  God made it very simple.  Wherever we are, in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in our journey through life, we can worship, we can praise, we can fellowship, with or without many things we sometimes want to make issues of.  Who cares?  I truly don&#8217;t believe that God does!  </p>
<p>To God be the glory, forever and ever, in whatever we do and however we do it. - Dee Andrews</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only imagine the Lord at judgement day.  He's asking me questions about my life, i.e. how did i show my love for Him, how did I show my love for my neighbors, did I show compassion and understanding to my fellow man, and oh, by the way, "Did you ever sing in church with instrumental music?"  

Somehow, I don't think that question is ever going to come up.  But, it is interesting, my son recently told me about a girl inviting him to church, and that this particular church had instrumental music.  He then told her that he grew up in church that only used a pitch pipe and vocal cords.  No instruments, and certainly no band!  I had to then remind him that his father had once played in one of those bands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only imagine the Lord at judgement day.  He&#8217;s asking me questions about my life, i.e. how did i show my love for Him, how did I show my love for my neighbors, did I show compassion and understanding to my fellow man, and oh, by the way, &#8220;Did you ever sing in church with instrumental music?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Somehow, I don&#8217;t think that question is ever going to come up.  But, it is interesting, my son recently told me about a girl inviting him to church, and that this particular church had instrumental music.  He then told her that he grew up in church that only used a pitch pipe and vocal cords.  No instruments, and certainly no band!  I had to then remind him that his father had once played in one of those bands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni Jamison</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenni Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't even remember how many friends I told as a child that we (the CofC) were the only ones going to heaven.  I said that to my friends!  And that was mainly over instrumental music, and a few other "less important" issues.  I could have been an encourager to them, a real friend, if I had only known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even remember how many friends I told as a child that we (the CofC) were the only ones going to heaven.  I said that to my friends!  And that was mainly over instrumental music, and a few other &#8220;less important&#8221; issues.  I could have been an encourager to them, a real friend, if I had only known.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Now for the rest of the day I will carry the vision of Grant, Brandon, Chris Seidman, Nino?, Val?, Stephan Bailey?, Lovell? Quile? Mitch Wilburn? Matt Murphy? ... creating a christian version of SNL.  The imagination runs wild... I would pay good money to see that show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Now for the rest of the day I will carry the vision of Grant, Brandon, Chris Seidman, Nino?, Val?, Stephan Bailey?, Lovell? Quile? Mitch Wilburn? Matt Murphy? &#8230; creating a christian version of SNL.  The imagination runs wild&#8230; I would pay good money to see that show.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://preachermike.com/2005/02/23/110915526552126474#comment-3087</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And David, if it was an SNL skit, surely our Christian church brethren (and sistren) would be screaming at the top of their lungs, "We need more cowbell, baby."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And David, if it was an SNL skit, surely our Christian church brethren (and sistren) would be screaming at the top of their lungs, &#8220;We need more cowbell, baby.&#8221;</p>
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