Comments on: The Together Conference http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394 Sniffing out the work of God in the world... Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:24:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Anna Bergan http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-41248 Anna Bergan Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:11:21 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-41248 Google is the best search engine Google is the best search engine

]]> By: Anonymous http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1726 Anonymous Wed, 03 Nov 2004 05:27:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1726 Hey Mike! Dane here. Since I'm an intruder in your blog, anonymous seemed as good a name as any for me. As I've read the comments about the Together conference and the unity effort, my heart has swelled with joy. I cannot express how pleased I was with our time together. I know this is just one more step in the process, but it was a step I was involved in, and that makes me so happy! Thank you for your help in making this time great. Hey....I learned something about you guys...you dance! :-) Wow! Hey Mike! Dane here. Since I’m an intruder in your blog, anonymous seemed as good a name as any for me. As I’ve read the comments about the Together conference and the unity effort, my heart has swelled with joy. I cannot express how pleased I was with our time together. I know this is just one more step in the process, but it was a step I was involved in, and that makes me so happy! Thank you for your help in making this time great. Hey….I learned something about you guys…you dance! :-) Wow!

]]> By: Mike http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1725 Mike Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:37:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1725 Since the vast majority of African-American Christians (liberal and conservative) will vote for John Kerry, it makes me nervous when someone says, "This is a simple decision for Christians." It's always hard for us to take off our contextual blinders, isn't it? Since the vast majority of African-American Christians (liberal and conservative) will vote for John Kerry, it makes me nervous when someone says, “This is a simple decision for Christians.” It’s always hard for us to take off our contextual blinders, isn’t it?

]]> By: Mike http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1724 Mike Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:23:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1724 Yes, Joyce, that's the title. UNSEEN THINGS. Thanks so much for that. Well, whatever it's called (and I read it before it had a title), it's wonderful material. I would encourage everyone to get it and digest it. It might be easier to locate with the correct title. :) Thanks to those who offered their sympathies about the Series. The team with the best record in baseball this year just sort of fell asleep. But it was still nice to be back in the World Series! Yes, Joyce, that’s the title. UNSEEN THINGS. Thanks so much for that. Well, whatever it’s called (and I read it before it had a title), it’s wonderful material. I would encourage everyone to get it and digest it. It might be easier to locate with the correct title. :)
Thanks to those who offered their sympathies about the Series. The team with the best record in baseball this year just sort of fell asleep. But it was still nice to be back in the World Series!

]]> By: Val http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1723 Val Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:29:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1723 Concerning the unification issue, it just seems to me that Satan has done very well at organizing a unified front for his purposes while the followers of Christ have become so fractured by fighting one another that our front is much less than strong, unified and effective. As York says in "The Jesus Proposal," we often get so wrapped up in "one thing" (an issue like how we worship or something comparable) that the real issue is neglected. I am encouraged by the discussions I am hearing and am glad to live in this exciting time. Oh, and Mike- sorry about the Cards... Concerning the unification issue, it just seems to me that Satan has done very well at organizing a unified front for his purposes while the followers of Christ have become so fractured by fighting one another that our front is much less than strong, unified and effective. As York says in “The Jesus Proposal,” we often get so wrapped up in “one thing” (an issue like how we worship or something comparable) that the real issue is neglected. I am encouraged by the discussions I am hearing and am glad to live in this exciting time. Oh, and Mike- sorry about the Cards…

]]> By: Jim Hays http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1722 Jim Hays Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:48:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1722 The lies posted on weblogs and in mass emails (on both candidates) are atrocious, no doubt. Seems to me pretty obvious which candidate supports Christian principles, though. One is for the right to choose whether or not we can kill unborn children. The other is not. One is for allowing gays to form civil unions and the other is not. One is for appointing Supreme Court justices who will uphold prayerless schools, abortion, gay rights and the complete separation of church and state. The other will appoint judges who will uphold the principles of Christianity. For a Christian, the choice is really very simple. jhays@westwoodone.com Los Angeles, CA The lies posted on weblogs and in mass emails (on both candidates) are atrocious, no doubt.

Seems to me pretty obvious which candidate supports Christian principles, though.

One is for the right to choose whether or not we can kill unborn children. The other is not.

One is for allowing gays to form civil unions and the other is not.

One is for appointing Supreme Court justices who will uphold prayerless schools, abortion, gay rights and the complete separation of church and state. The other will appoint judges who will uphold the principles of Christianity.

For a Christian, the choice is really very simple.

jhays@westwoodone.com
Los Angeles, CA

]]> By: Anonymous http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1721 Anonymous Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:12:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1721 I wasn't trying to be anonymous, but it was the only way I could get in. I am new the blog thing! Anyway, I too was at the conference. Seeing as our congregation, coc, is looking at merging with a christian church, we thought it useful to go. I can say on this side, I redeemed a lot from attending. One of the most useful, realizing life is not about me. The only disappointment in the conference is the still unknown, "put your finger on it", purpose of all this. But I see that as the God part of the whole thing. In trying to tell my coc preacher b-in-law what all this is about, it became apparent that most are expecting a huge merger. At the conference it was emphasized that is not the purpose. I tried to tell my b-in-law that but cooperation was the only word I could come up with to describe the actions of all this. Why are we so afraid to cooperate with others? Even I find myself at times scared to continue because I don't know the future. Control is what it is usually called and I am learning bit by bit how to give up that control. Thank you for the things you had to say at the conference and I hope to see the whole purpose in the near future. I wasn’t trying to be anonymous, but it was the only way I could get in. I am new the blog thing! Anyway, I too was at the conference. Seeing as our congregation, coc, is looking at merging with a christian church, we thought it useful to go. I can say on this side, I redeemed a lot from attending. One of the most useful, realizing life is not about me. The only disappointment in the conference is the still unknown, “put your finger on it”, purpose of all this. But I see that as the God part of the whole thing. In trying to tell my coc preacher b-in-law what all this is about, it became apparent that most are expecting a huge merger. At the conference it was emphasized that is not the purpose. I tried to tell my b-in-law that but cooperation was the only word I could come up with to describe the actions of all this. Why are we so afraid to cooperate with others? Even I find myself at times scared to continue because I don’t know the future. Control is what it is usually called and I am learning bit by bit how to give up that control. Thank you for the things you had to say at the conference and I hope to see the whole purpose in the near future.

]]> By: Joyce http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1720 Joyce Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:37:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1720 I think Leonard's new book is <I>Things Unseen: Churches of Christ in and after the Modern Age</I>. (Close to Seeing the Unseen, which is the title of a book by Joe Beam) You can find info about <I>Things Unseen</I> at <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leafwoodpublishers.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Leafwood Publishers</A>. I think Leonard’s new book is Things Unseen: Churches of Christ in and after the Modern Age. (Close to Seeing the Unseen, which is the title of a book by Joe Beam) You can find info about Things Unseen at Leafwood Publishers.

]]> By: James http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1719 James Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:19:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1719 Mike, The conference sounds great, it's good to see these things happening. As to the emails, it seems if it's an email or politics, gossip is allowed for Christians. If it's an email about politics, you can even get a freebie on slander. Mike,

The conference sounds great, it’s good to see these things happening.

As to the emails, it seems if it’s an email or politics, gossip is allowed for Christians. If it’s an email about politics, you can even get a freebie on slander.

]]> By: Anonymous http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1718 Anonymous Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:48:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1718 Does anyone else think it's funny that Mike may be "written up" for fellowshipping a religious group that (on most issues) is actually MORE conservative than the non-instrumental COC's? A piano does not make one a liberal. Does anyone else think it’s funny that Mike may be “written up” for fellowshipping a religious group that (on most issues) is actually MORE conservative than the non-instrumental COC’s?

A piano does not make one a liberal.

]]> By: Anonymous http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1717 Anonymous Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:31:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1717 Mike, I commend you and others for going to or hosting the together conference. As you said, you all can not speak for all of us as well. I don't know why the split, all I know is that my time should be spent teaching others about Christ. If the Christian church is doing that, Great! I think you were taking another cheap shot at the Christian universities not in attendance. Big Deal! When you leave this conference you will go back to your same building just like the Christian church did. You will be written up by some of our brothers for attending. You will stir the pot, that I thought Jesus is the one to do so. I know I will be attacked by those not wanting to see both side. But I hope you see my point. Thanks Soldier of the Cross Mike,

I commend you and others for going to or hosting the together conference. As you said, you all can not speak for all of us as well. I don’t know why the split, all I know is that my time should be spent teaching others about Christ. If the Christian church is doing that, Great! I think you were taking another cheap shot at the Christian universities not in attendance. Big Deal! When you leave this conference you will go back to your same building just like the Christian church did. You will be written up by some of our brothers for attending. You will stir the pot, that I thought Jesus is the one to do so. I know I will be attacked by those not wanting to see both side. But I hope you see my point. Thanks Soldier of the Cross

]]> By: Vkls http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1716 Vkls Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:42:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1716 I was saddened to see that my college was not in the list of those striving for unity at the Together Conference. I was saddened to see that my college was not in the list of those striving for unity at the Together Conference.

]]> By: Brandon Scott http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1715 Brandon Scott Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:45:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1715 tsk tsk. That Quile. tsk tsk. That Quile.

]]> By: Val http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1714 Val Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:03:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1714 The amazing thing is that I have only gotten one such e-mail this election season. Either people have gotten the message on my feelings on absurd e-mails, or (and more likely) my e-mail address is not as popular as yours. Either way, there is plenty of fodder in what these guys really do say to make unnecessary any desire to embellish things. Good post. Although, notably absent was any remark about the Cardinals. Sorry, man. The amazing thing is that I have only gotten one such e-mail this election season. Either people have gotten the message on my feelings on absurd e-mails, or (and more likely) my e-mail address is not as popular as yours. Either way, there is plenty of fodder in what these guys really do say to make unnecessary any desire to embellish things. Good post. Although, notably absent was any remark about the Cardinals. Sorry, man.

]]> By: Steve Jr. http://preachermike.com/2004/10/29/109904964492995394#comment-1713 Steve Jr. Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:00:00 +0000 http://www.preachermike.com/?p=359#comment-1713 My mom and one or two of those who may be voting for the "wrong guy" on Tuesday get anonymous flyers in their boxes at the Christian school where they work. A young teacher gets harassed by an older male teacher for her political leanings. Are we living in the McCarthy era again? Are my parents going to get a knock on the door Monday evening? Gosh. Shape up, people. My mom and one or two of those who may be voting for the “wrong guy” on Tuesday get anonymous flyers in their boxes at the Christian school where they work. A young teacher gets harassed by an older male teacher for her political leanings. Are we living in the McCarthy era again? Are my parents going to get a knock on the door Monday evening?

Gosh. Shape up, people.

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